Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL "virality" questions

2009-10-07 Thread Matt Amos
On 10/7/09, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Matt Amos wrote: >> can the SA requirement be satisfied by saying that we consider the >> extracted IDs to be an ODbL part of a collective database, where the >> proprietary data is the other part? it would require the ODbL part >> (i.e: the list of IDs)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL "virality" questions

2009-10-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Matt Amos wrote: > can the SA requirement be satisfied by saying that we consider the > extracted IDs to be an ODbL part of a collective database, where the > proprietary data is the other part? it would require the ODbL part > (i.e: the list of IDs) to be made available, but nothing else. It

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL "virality" questions

2009-10-07 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Matt Amos wrote: >> this is the crux of the question. the ODbL makes no distinction >> between lat/lon data, ID data, or any other sort of data. so the >> question then becomes; if i'm using some data from an ODbL database >> and incor

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL "virality" questions

2009-10-07 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Matt Amos wrote: > this is the crux of the question. the ODbL makes no distinction > between lat/lon data, ID data, or any other sort of data. so the > question then becomes; if i'm using some data from an ODbL database > and incorporating that into my database, do i have to release all of > m

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] reciprocal data agreements

2009-10-07 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Richard, > > Richard Weait wrote: >> Imagine a data provider using perhaps cc-by, or a BSD style permissive >> license contributes their data to OSM. >> Imagine then that they would like to monitor changes in OSM to data >> that originated fro

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] reciprocal data agreements

2009-10-07 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:50 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Richard, > > Richard Weait wrote: >> Imagine a data provider using perhaps cc-by, or a BSD style permissive >> license contributes their data to OSM. >> Imagine then that they would like to monitor changes in OSM to data >> that originated fro

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL "virality" questions

2009-10-07 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >> as a concrete example, let's pretend i have a site, beerintheOSM, >> which rates pubs and allows commenting and photo uploads. if i'm >> storing the reviews linked against pubs linked against OSM >> (name/location/ID), i definitely h

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL "virality" questions

2009-10-07 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Dan Karran wrote: > What would happen if the beerintheOSM site encouraged their users to > add new pubs to their site, would that data - the equivalent of what > would have come from OSM, had they come from there - need to be > released as well, or again something