Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ian Sergeant wrote: However, if the transition happened today in Sydney, we would lose every freeway, every trunk road, every primary road, the harbour crossings, the foreshore. All the rivers. Without wishing to play down your loss at all - I wouldn't want to be an Australian OSM user at

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-08 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 8 March 2012 20:36, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Assuming you're going to be using the Australian government data, which seems to be the general will of the .au community, you will find it much easier to integrate that into a post-changeover database. I would gently

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-08 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 8 March 2012 23:57, Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Would it be an idea to invite international mappers to remotely remap Australia (or Poland) by, ... I believe I have issued such an invitation. Initially, there are large parts of the coast and significant coastal waterways,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Feedback requested ... OSM Poland data

2012-03-08 Thread Ed Avis
Richard Fairhurst richard@... writes: If we were to say we don't think verifying data creates a derived work, would the great mass of OSM mappers be content to see Google (for example) use our effort to determine where new streets are; send the StreetView cars/satellites out; and have the new

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Andrew andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Would it be an idea to invite international mappers to remotely remap Australia (or Poland) by, for example, tracing side streets from photographs? It could well have a stabilising effect that avoids any concer about

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] What happens on April 1?

2012-03-08 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: As for the data consumers, Australia does have one great advantage: you're an island (albeit a big one!). That makes it perfectly possible for data consumers to use pre-1st April Australia data and post-1st April for

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Feedback requested ... OSM Poland data

2012-03-08 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Umh. Of course other (as in any) maps can be used for _some_ level of verification (such as: oh, there seems to b a rd here! I should go out and survey that!) -- Or should I rather say navigation to help in one's own surveying. I'd be very very surprised if let's say any new company in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Feedback requested ... OSM Poland data

2012-03-08 Thread Kai Krueger
jaakkoh wrote Umh. Of course other (as in any) maps can be used for _some_ level of verification (such as: oh, there seems to b a rd here! I should go out and survey that!) -- Or should I rather say navigation to help in one's own surveying. Furthermore, we are currently doing that on a