Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Only when you start to use the process to systematically recreate a database from the process the ODbL kicks in. This is also how I'm reading

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-14 8:15 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: This is also how I'm reading this. Obviously the sticky point is the definition of what's a database in this sentence: systematically recreate a database from the process. You

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-14 Thread Alex Barth
Also if we assume geocoding yields Produced Work the definition of Substantial doesn't matter. Taking a step back here. What do we want? From conversations around dropping share alike my impression was that there was a consensus around unlocking geocoding - even among share-alike advocates. Just

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 2014-07-14 11:26 AM, Alex Barth wrote: Also if we assume geocoding yields Produced Work the definition of Substantial doesn't matter. A database that is based upon the Database, and includes any translation, adaptation, arrangement, modification, or any other alteration of the Database or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-07-14 20:26 GMT+02:00 Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com: Just like how CC-BY-SA created a grey area around the SA implications for the rendered map which wasn't good for OSM, ODbL does the same with permanent geocoding. To make OSM viable for geocoding we can't have its ODbL infecting the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-14 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/07/14 06:26 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Taking a step back here. What do we want? From conversations around dropping share alike my impression was that there was a consensus around unlocking geocoding - even among share-alike advocates. Just