believe that we have the ability to grant that right to
the OSMF for the Ordnance Survey data.
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relicensings possible. The argument against is the same:
that it grants too much power to the OSMF, even if subject to a vote of
'active' contributors.
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, BTW - I'm not bothered about attribution
and I disagree with the ODbL for other reasons.)
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this turns out and what Google's response is.
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wiki pages (!).
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, in the end, considered unprotected and freely usable
for adding to a non-CC-BY-SA data set, then most of the map data would be
also, by the same argument.
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be happy to help.
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contributions under CC-BY-SA simply continues.
Surely this is two separate steps:
- begin offering a licence to the whole database under ODbL,
- stop offering a licence under CC-BY-SA.
They might happen at the same time but they don't have to.
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, having a blanket grant-of-licence in the contributor terms
without actually assigning the copyright seems a suboptimal choice.
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A related question is that if a fork happened, could it then be merged back
into the main OSM project?
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to
reincorporate it into OSM, it becomes much less useful.)
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addr:street=Capworth Street
It appears to me that adding these two extra tags postal_code and
addr:street (and sometimes addr:housenumber) from the data file should
be okay, but I wanted to check with this list. If these are felt to be
a step too far then I will just add the lat,lon and ref.
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restrictive
licence you want, with nothing that the OSM contributors can do about it;
and I would give this legal advice to my clients.
In my view this is very far from being the case.
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result as if CC-BY-SA were in force. Indeed one way
to think about CC-BY-SA (apart from the attribution requirement) is that
it tries to simulate a situation where all content is in the public domain.
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, to suggest dumping ODBL and moving to
Creative Commons, I would probably still argue that the existing licence
is strong enough and the theoretical legal scenarios aren't practical enough
to cause concern.
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of legal boilerplate will change that.
If you take a very sceptical, pessimistic view of CC-BY-SA's effectiveness
and enforceability, you should do the same for ODBL. I don't think that
is always the case here.
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individuals and companies.
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while accepting that CC has its flaws, I cannot agree that it is 'dreadful',
'useless' or 'completely ineffective'.
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restrictive contract, we need to assess how serious
those are in practice. (Trade secrets, mentioned as one possibility, don't
really cause a problem because they only work as long as the information
is kept secret.)
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provisions,
but it seems I'm very much in the minority on this.
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to publish that additional data because it could
be considered a Derived Database under the ODBL.)
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would be copying street names from Google.
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questions.
I fear the OSMF may be planning to eliminate CC-BY-SA permissions in
the name of stronger copyleft, but in fact not achieve that, since a
contract-based licence is more difficult to enforce.
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foundation claim
copyright over the map data' but rather 'do we claim that the map data is
a work subject to copyright'. As far as I know OSM is still making that
claim, and there are no plans to change this.
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Good work! This must mean that if we see Ordnance Survey maps in secondhand
shops with a copyright date of 1958 or earlier, we should buy them and start
scanning them in.
(I know about the npemaps site; is there some other collection of out-of-
copyright maps to contribute to?)
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http://www.spatialknowledge.eu/ABCAtlas/openlayers.html is a scan of the
London 'ABC Street Atlas' from 1933/34. It is suggested on the OSM wiki as
a data source; is it judged okay to copy information such as street names and
layout from this atlas into OSM?
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can be freely copied. In which case the OSM project has already
achieved its aim (of free map data) kind of by default, and all that
remains is to view some areas in Google Maps and start copying in the
streets and other features.
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and Mason vs
Montgomery.
I will read those (anyone got a link?).
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have to, I guess. Just make sure that
site visitors aren't caught in the crossfire, and do not end up having to agree
(explicitly or implicitly) to waive some of their rights.
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to do future relicensing exercises then why not simply
ask
for copyright assignment? It is more honest that way I think.
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consideration, for example a
monetary payment. It's not clear that putting up an intimidating screenful
of legal boilerplate accomplishes anything.
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, the tone of responses seems to be that lawyers aren't really
welcome here, so I'll shut up again.
I am sorry about the tone of my previous message - I would like to hear more
of your thoughts.
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to basically the same thing expressed with more words is
fine, then I suppose we can go with that.
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the correct
terms.
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people, would certainly be effective in discouraging contributions to OSM.
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the Royal Mail, be added to OSM?
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