Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Have there been many projects/companies which improved TIGER and released the results as PD? None that I know of; I suppose they have all spent a lot of money to be able to process and improve TIGER and they probably want to recoup that investment through proprietary licensing. Is it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-13 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:03:20PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: None that I know of; I suppose they have all spent a lot of money to be able to process and improve TIGER and they probably want to recoup that investment through proprietary licensing. Is it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Is it relevant to us? Surely it's highly relevant to your assertion that we would build a strong community around OSM if it was PD? I thought OJW was not talking about communities but about corporations. Which generally have a bad track record of working for free (perhaps because they

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nathan, I'm 100% with you as regards PD; I also think that it would cause much less hassle, make OSM a better project and be morally superior along the way. However there are many people who think differently, and you may encounter some of them on legal-talk to which I'm CCing this, with full

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-06 Thread Nic Roets
I really would like to see a license as simple as the following: For data users - 0. Open Street Map collects and creates public domain map data. 1. Attribution of Open Street Map is expected. We make it easy. 2. Contributing back or freely sharing modifications is strongly encouraged.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-06 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: That's my problem as well. We are not much better than other owners of geodata. They say: 1. Geodata is very valuable and takes a lot of work to collect and those who do all the work should be the owners of the data and dictate under what rules it may be used; 2.