Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-23 Thread Rob Myers
Andrew Turner wrote: > It sounds like your primary concern is about interoperability. But > isn't that perhaps just CC-implementation specific? It is inherent to modules that seek to place different restrictions or requirements on people. > Perhaps something that can be addressed in ODbL with mod

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-23 Thread Andrew Turner
It sounds like your primary concern is about interoperability. But isn't that perhaps just CC-implementation specific? Perhaps something that can be addressed in ODbL with modules? The ability to have them merged together. Again, this would have *huge* impact on the benefits to products and consum

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andrew Turner wrote: > I would like to know more about how they're not compatible? Well you cannot use data from a CC-BY-NC project in a CC-BY-SA project. (For example, there is a Karlsruhe local Wiki using CC-BY-NC from which I would have liked to use data for OSM; and your "marketing"...

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-23 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Andrew wrote: "Suggesting that someone can "just copy ... and strike out the words they don't like" is not actually an option. For one, this is a new license that has to be verified, vetted - and no one else will know what the implications are or ability to trust the license. And then we get into t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-23 Thread Andrew Turner
I was hoping to have more feedback on this - especially from those working directly on the license itself such as Steve, Nick, or other OSMF board. My responses inline: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Turner wrote: >> One thing that has made Crea

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-14 Thread Rob Myers
Frederik Ramm wrote: > In my eyes this modular nonsense is actually the greatest problem with > the CC licenses and I'm happy not to see it repeated here. A little harsh but I do agree that "licence proliferation" is a bad thing. ODbL should not support it. - Rob. signature.asc Description:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andrew Turner wrote: > One thing that has made Creative Commons incredibly successful is the > modularity of the various components: Attribution, Share-Alike, > Non-Commercial, etc. Yes, I find it incredibly useful to effectively have 10 different licenses that somehow all sound as if they a

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL modules?

2008-11-14 Thread Andrew Turner
Hi - I apologize for not being completely up to speed on the work and direction of the ODbL. However based on some brief discussions with various people involved it seems as though a particular issued isn't being addressed. The ODbL is seeking to clarify the meaning of putting an open license on d