Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 07 February 2016, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > > Just to make it clear: > Only streets will be derived from OpenStreetMap data, all other data > are from a proprietary LMA dataset. But the generalization tool > creates an interaction between both datasets. So the LMA dataset will > become

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-07 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am So, 7.02.2016, 08:37 schrieb Paul Norman: > > It sounds like you have two databases, one the landuse data, the other > the roads data, together which form a collective database. This might be > in one file, or more than one file. Because both databases are derived > from OSM data, by design you

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 06/02/16 11:32 AM, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > > Sure, I understand that. But I thought the main concept behind share-alike > is to make data better by foreign "investitions". In general the idea of share-alike is to make sure that downstream users of data have the same ability to work with the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-06 Thread Tobias Wendorff
First of all: sorry, my mail client had problems while parsing the mail. That's what the message-id got lost. I hope that won't happen again :( > The relevant question here is if during this process you generate a > derivative database containing both OSM and proprietary data. If you > do you'd

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Saturday 06 February 2016, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > > Since this process includes an (automatic processed) interaction > between foreign and OpenStreetMap data, share-alike might step in. The relevant question here is if during this process you generate a derivative database containing both

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-06 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Am So, 7.02.2016, 00:53 schrieb Rob Myers: > In general the idea of share-alike is to make sure that downstream users > of data have the same ability to work with the data as upstream users. > > So it's about the users continuing to be able to use the data rather > than improving it, although that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-06 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/6/2016 9:41 PM, Tobias Wendorff wrote: I mean, this won't be enough, will it? - get OSM data extract from 2016-02-07 - filter streets - get LMA data extract from 2015-12-31 - open in generalization tool XY with parameters XY When publicly using a derivative database (or produced work from

[OSM-legal-talk] share-alike on generalized data?

2016-02-06 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Desr members of Legal-Talk! I'm working on a project, which mixes feature classes of different sources: buildings, landuse and other data from a local mapping agency and streets streets from OpenStreetMap Since the produced work will be published, share-alike needs to be discussed. At lower