Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-04 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Then you must have the same objection to tracing from Yahoo's imagery. Unlike Bing, there is no specific agreement between Yahoo and OSM. Yahoo only agreed that the act of tracing from the satellite imagery that they

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: I believe there'll be a Bing Maps blog post going up soon on the same topic.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Sam Larsen
- Original Message From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 19:02:55 Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license Richard Fairhurst wrote: I believe there'll be a Bing Maps blog

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
the Scribd document then I've also uploaded it to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing#Licence . Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-some-interesting-points-from-the-bing-license-tp5790772p5799244.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andrew Harvey wrote: I am yet to see a license. http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details has a set of terms of use embedded in the post specifically for OSM. It's a Scribd document and therefore requires

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andrew Harvey wrote: I am yet to see a license. http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details has a set of terms of use embedded

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: Am I the only one that sees a problem with the legal foundation of tracing from Bing imagery? Take a look at how NearMap.com make their imagery available for tracing. On their website along with the their license of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Lennard
On 3-12-2010 17:23, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Then you must have the same objection to tracing from Yahoo's imagery. Unlike Bing, there is no specific agreement between Yahoo and OSM. Yahoo only agreed that the act of tracing from the satellite imagery that they host and putting the traced

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Personally I'm delighted that Bing is happy to work with us, and I think their attitude to permitting tracing without claiming a share in any (allegedly) resulting IP reflects very well on them when compared to Google

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-02 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:34 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Whereabouts is the prior written consent from Microsoft which would enable us to trace and thus create derivative works? David [1]  

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-02 Thread Mike Dupont
At the time of my writing Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:59 AM CET is when I was working on that, there was no mention of this other license, at least I did not see it. Sorry for misleading, mike On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:10

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
soon on the same topic. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-some-interesting-points-from-the-bing-license-tp5790772p5795386.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ legal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-02 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: On 12/01/2010 02:31 PM, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org Isn't http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details the prior written consent from Microsoft. I'm not sure it is,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Sebastian Klein
Mike Dupont wrote: I have highlighted and commented on points from the bing Tou for discussion http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11/interesting-points-from-bing-bind.html thanks, mike We have a ToU agreement specially designed for osm (Bing Maps Imagery Service Editor Application API's

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com wrote: We have a ToU agreement specially designed for osm (Bing Maps Imagery Service Editor Application API's Terms of Use [1]) so do we even need to consider the general terms of use? They are both somewhat similar,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
expect every 'i' to be dotted and 't' to be crossed quite yet, whether in terms of language or hosting. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-some-interesting-points-from-the-bing-license-tp5790772p5791311.html Sent from the Legal Talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Sebastian Klein basti...@googlemail.com To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license Mike Dupont wrote: I have highlighted and commented on points

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:34 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Whereabouts is the prior written consent from Microsoft which would enable us to trace and thus create derivative works? David [1]  http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details Isn't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Rob Myers
On 12/01/2010 02:31 PM, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org Isn't http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details the prior written consent from Microsoft. I'm not sure it is, or certainly if it is enough. Anthony's weaponized literalism aside, that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
Hello, In addition, the LWG is going to have a look at the terms for the same reason. Emilie Laffray On 1 December 2010 16:07, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 12/01/2010 02:31 PM, David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony o...@inbox.org Isn't

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-12-01 Thread Steve Coast
-Original Message- From: legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Rob Myers Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:08 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

[OSM-legal-talk] some interesting points from the bing license

2010-11-30 Thread Mike Dupont
I have highlighted and commented on points from the bing Tou for discussion http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/11/interesting-points-from-bing-bind.html thanks, mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org