Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Peter Miller
On 13 May 2009, at 01:36, Matt Amos wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: ...and Peter Miller's concerns are legit: If you are the licensor, then, under 4.4.d... Licensors may authorise a proxy to determine compatible licences under

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Gervase Markham
On 12/05/09 09:37, Frederik Ramm wrote: Claiming copyright on something where you are not reasonably sure of actually having it is, in my eyes, a FUD maneouvre worthy of players like the OS, but something that we should make an attempt to steer clear of. The way of avoiding it seeming to be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Amos
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: There is both the situation were OSM bulk-imports some data from another source into OSM that is published as ODbL where the original data owner can not be contacted which I would hope would be possible, under the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Ulf Möller use...@... writes: Jukka Rahkonen schrieb: But what if OSMF is changing the license and somebody has managed to base some business on top of derived database licensed under the old ODbL license? Dou you lawyers say that it is a sound basis for building a business? For

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Gervase Markham wrote: The way of avoiding it seeming to be FUD is to have a clause like: Nothing in this licence attempts to restrict your rights under fair use or a similar doctrine. Sounds like: We have a honest desire to sue the shit out of you if you violate any of our 52

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] QA with a lawyer

2009-05-13 Thread Ulf Möller
Jukka Rahkonen schrieb: And if the maintainer of the derived database has a community that continues to collect new data under ODbL 1.0 terms, and the main OSM has advanced to ODbL 1.1 or something, is it possible to exchange data between these two systems? According to RC1, you could use