Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: David ( some others), David Groom wrote: I've repeatedly asked where is the explicit permission to use Bing Imagery to create derived works, all the only answer is we have it. As I've said before if its there please

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Rob Myers
On 21/12/10 10:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: I am having this conversation because I contribute to OSM on the basis that the database will be licensed CC BY-SA and will not be filled with data which conflicts with that license. If tracings from Bing imagery cannot be distributed under this license,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Harvey wrote: We need to find a norm as a community so we don't have this conflict. We do have a norm as a community. 99% of people are tracing from Bing imagery and you're not. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Objects versions ready for ODbL

2010-12-21 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 01:00:26PM +, Simon Ward wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:52:04AM +, DavidD wrote: On 20 December 2010 10:25, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:00, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: I must admit, however, that basically

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/21/10 11:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: I am having this conversation because I contribute to OSM on the basis that the database will be licensed CC BY-SA and will not be filled with data which conflicts with that license. If tracings from Bing imagery cannot be distributed under this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Phillip, On 12/21/10 16:43, Barnett, Phillip wrote: So people who have not (yet) accepted the CTs can't use Bing? Is that really the case? I think Rob was slightly wrong when he said: We do not have permission from Bing to licence the data differently anywhere else. And contributions to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: This rule means that everything that is traced from Bing before OSM stops publishing under CC-BY-SA will be available to the world, forever, under CC-BY-SA. But a hypothetical CC-BY-SA fork would not be allowed to accept

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Anthony, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: This rule means that everything that is traced from Bing before OSM stops publishing under CC-BY-SA will be available to the world, forever, under CC-BY-SA. But a hypothetical CC-BY-SA fork would