Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations
On 16/giu/2013, at 03:47, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: While I agree with Richard, it might be interesting to know that Wikidata (a Wikimedia.de project) is licensed CC-0, and they copy data wholesale from Wikipedia. that's indeed interesting, how can they throw the original viral licenses of Wikipedia overboard? cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/giu/2013, at 03:47, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: While I agree with Richard, it might be interesting to know that Wikidata (a Wikimedia.de project) is licensed CC-0, and they copy data wholesale from Wikipedia. that's indeed interesting, how can they throw the original viral licenses of Wikipedia overboard? Based on what I've seen, what they are copying from Wikipedia are data and facts. In the US, facts are not copyrightable as facts do not originate from creative authorship and there are no database rights in the US either. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations
On 16/giu/2013, at 12:14, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: that's indeed interesting, how can they throw the original viral licenses of Wikipedia overboard? Based on what I've seen, what they are copying from Wikipedia are data and facts. In the US, facts are not copyrightable as facts do not originate from creative authorship and there are no database rights in the US either. but the wikipedia terms of use require you to attribute, for instance. If the terms wouldn't apply in this case, couldn't we start to copy facts from other maps just as well? cheers, Martin___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Place name translations
On 16.06.2013 12:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 16/giu/2013, at 12:14, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Based on what I've seen, what they are copying from Wikipedia are data and facts. In the US, facts are not copyrightable as facts do not originate from creative authorship and there are no database rights in the US either. but the wikipedia terms of use require you to attribute, for instance. If the terms wouldn't apply in this case, couldn't we start to copy facts from other maps just as well? Wikipedia's license (their terms of use do not impose any relevant restrictions as far as I can see) is CC BY-SA, which only applies to copyrightable content in the first place - and this may very well not include factual data. To me it seems this is the same reason why we doubted whether our map data was even protected by CC BY-SA at all before the license change. With Google, one difference is that their terms of use actually do contain relevant restrictions. Tobias ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk