Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Paul Norman wrote: Is there any relevant case law on substantial? A brief reminder that there are two useful wiki pages: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Statute_law http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Case_law which collect links to useful papers and cases. In particular Charlotte Waelde's paper

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-30 Thread jonathan
+1 I know of a few sites who have not responded to my email. what is the next step? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 30/04/2014 00:34, Simon Poole wrote: Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of attribution, or rather lack of such. I don't think there is very much

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-30 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 28.04.2014 23:34, Kai Krueger wrote: I would say we can all agree on that for the majority of the community giving data back when you fix things is the spirit of the share-a-like license of OSM. Even as a supporter of more liberal licensing, this is a spirit I could pretty much get behind.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-30 Thread Alex Barth
Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of attribution, or rather lack of such Doesn't help that the original post conflates the issues :p On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: Just a reminder, this thread started of with a discussion of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-30 Thread Rob Myers
On 30/04/14 03:18 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: But we have to judge a license based on its actual effects, not the original intention. What annoys me, for example, is when we require people to publish data that we wouldn't even want if they offered it. The users of the data may want it. The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing OpenStreetMap at Mapbox

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: I just posted a writeup on my diary on how we're attributing OpenStreetMap at Mapbox. [ ... ] [ and from the blog ] (c) Mapbox (c) OpenStreetMap links to https://www.mapbox.com/about/maps with a full listing of all sources. [

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-30 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 30.04.2014 19:37, Rob Myers wrote: On 30/04/14 03:18 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: But we have to judge a license based on its actual effects, not the original intention. What annoys me, for example, is when we require people to publish data that we wouldn't even want if they offered it. The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-04-30 Thread Rob Myers
On 30/04/14 02:35 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: I think there is quite a bit of data that will, with high likelihood, never be of use to anyone. That's especially true for byproducts of the creation of a produced work. It's been of use to at least one person. The person who created the produced