[OSM-legal-talk] OpenStreetMap Geocoded Replication Data and Licensing

2014-08-20 Thread Rudloff, Peter J
I have a question regarding a research project I and my colleague are working 
on at Oklahoma State University.  We are working with a dataset of terrorist 
events that contains location data such as city name, administrative/state 
name, country name.  We are planning on geocoding the dataset with the 
MapQuest Open Geocoding API Web Service, which uses the OpenStreetMap data.  
The Global Terrorism Database (http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/) we are using 
contains approximately 70,000 events (although many are duplicates in terms of 
location) that will be geocoded (i.e. associated with latitude, longitude, etc. 
from the OpenStreetMap data).  My question pertains to the license we are 
allowed to use when distributing our replication data, which would contain 
within it some data drawn from the OpenStreetMap data (i.e. latitude and 
longitude).  As this is an academic project we hope to publish, we want to make 
our data available to others for easy analysis and replication, etc.  Do we 
have the ability to assign our own license to this replication data, or will we 
have to release the replication data under the ODC Open Database License?

Also, is there anything else that you would like researchers to do when 
publishing work using the OpenStreetMap data, such as using a particular 
citation, notifying the OpenStreetMap Foundation when a work is published that 
used OpenStreetMap data, etc.?

Peter Rudloff
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenStreetMap Geocoded Replication Data and Licensing

2014-08-20 Thread Alex Barth
Peter -

  Do we have the ability to assign our own license to this replication
data, or will we have to release the replication data under the ODC Open
Database License?

My read is yes, you have the ability to assign your own license to the
dataset you're creating. Note you'll have to attribute OpenStreetMap.

Background of this interpretation is here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline

(Note this document is a draft but not an officially sanctioned guideline,
in recent discussions there were diverging opinions).


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Rudloff, Peter J peter.rudl...@okstate.edu
 wrote:

  I have a question regarding a research project I and my colleague are
 working on at Oklahoma State University.  We are working with a dataset of
 terrorist events that contains location data such as city name,
 administrative/state name, country name.  We are planning on geocoding the
 dataset with the MapQuest Open Geocoding API Web Service, which uses the
 OpenStreetMap data.  The Global Terrorism Database (
 http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/) we are using contains approximately 70,000
 events (although many are duplicates in terms of location) that will be
 geocoded (i.e. associated with latitude, longitude, etc. from the
 OpenStreetMap data).  My question pertains to the license we are allowed to
 use when distributing our replication data, which would contain within it
 some data drawn from the OpenStreetMap data (i.e. latitude and longitude).
  As this is an academic project we hope to publish, we want to make our
 data available to others for easy analysis and replication, etc.  Do we
 have the ability to assign our own license to this replication data, or
 will we have to release the replication data under the ODC Open Database
 License?

  Also, is there anything else that you would like researchers to do when
 publishing work using the OpenStreetMap data, such as using a particular
 citation, notifying the OpenStreetMap Foundation when a work is published
 that used OpenStreetMap data, etc.?

  Peter Rudloff

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenStreetMap Geocoded Replication Data and Licensing

2014-08-20 Thread Rudloff, Peter J
Thank you for the reply.  I followed the Updated geocoding community guideline 
proposal thread from July/August, and just wanted to be sure I was using, 
attributing, and potentially distributing the replication data properly in our 
research.

Peter Rudloff

From: Alex Barth [a...@mapbox.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:47 PM
To: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenStreetMap Geocoded Replication Data and 
Licensing

Peter -

  Do we have the ability to assign our own license to this replication data, 
 or will we have to release the replication data under the ODC Open Database 
 License?

My read is yes, you have the ability to assign your own license to the dataset 
you're creating. Note you'll have to attribute OpenStreetMap.

Background of this interpretation is here: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline

(Note this document is a draft but not an officially sanctioned guideline, in 
recent discussions there were diverging opinions).


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Rudloff, Peter J 
peter.rudl...@okstate.edumailto:peter.rudl...@okstate.edu wrote:
I have a question regarding a research project I and my colleague are working 
on at Oklahoma State University.  We are working with a dataset of terrorist 
events that contains location data such as city name, administrative/state 
name, country name.  We are planning on geocoding the dataset with the 
MapQuest Open Geocoding API Web Service, which uses the OpenStreetMap data.  
The Global Terrorism Database (http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/) we are using 
contains approximately 70,000 events (although many are duplicates in terms of 
location) that will be geocoded (i.e. associated with latitude, longitude, etc. 
from the OpenStreetMap data).  My question pertains to the license we are 
allowed to use when distributing our replication data, which would contain 
within it some data drawn from the OpenStreetMap data (i.e. latitude and 
longitude).  As this is an academic project we hope to publish, we want to make 
our data available to others for easy analysis and replication, etc.  Do we 
have the ability to assign our own license to this replication data, or will we 
have to release the replication data under the ODC Open Database License?

Also, is there anything else that you would like researchers to do when 
publishing work using the OpenStreetMap data, such as using a particular 
citation, notifying the OpenStreetMap Foundation when a work is published that 
used OpenStreetMap data, etc.?

Peter Rudloff

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-08-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 07/25/2014 11:39 AM, Simon Poole wrote:
 As I've said before, I'm not convinced that trying to better define and
 clarify the issue by invoking the produced work clauses will lead to a
 satisfactory result. I would suggest that at least a comparison (for all
 your use cases) with a model based on the information that is used for
 geocoding is subject to share alike, but nothing else (which has been
 suggested in this discussion and previously a number of times).

I have made a start on this comparison by adding a second column to

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline

outlining the position/results of the stuff used for geocoding makes a
derivative database but only that and not the additional info approach.

I call it the collective database alternative because the idea is that
your proprietary data (store opening times or whatnot) form a collective
database with the ODbL-Share-Alike location data.

It would be great if people would help fill in the blanks, or correct me
where I might have misrepresented the discussion.

Bye
Frederik

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