[OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
The ODbL that we now use for OSM data technically only applies to the database, and not to individual contents contained within it. For that, the ODbL says you need a separate licence [1]. I was under the impression that for OSM's data this licence was the ODC's Database Contents Licence (DbCL)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/10/2014 09:05, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It therefore surprised me when I read the White Paper ... What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin to write a paper supporting their commercial point of view re the licensing of OpenStreetMap data. Does it really deserve

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-29 12:32 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk: What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin doesn't seem to be a nobody in this field though: Kevin is the Executive Director of the Centre for Spatial Law and Policy and a lawyer focusing on the unique legal and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Sachin Dole
I am unpaid nobody in the context of last two emails on this thread. In my opinion, it sure would be nice for users (not contributors alone) if there was lot more clarity. I imagine, from my point of view, that contributors and other stakeholders might also benefit from commercial users if the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Palenik
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 08:19:10PM -0400, Alex Barth wrote: Good call on geocodes - geocoding results. That's clearer. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: What do you think the status of a database of geocoding results is under the interpretation in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-29 13:47 GMT+01:00 Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com: ... if there was lot more clarity. I imagine, ..., that contributors and other stakeholders might also benefit from commercial users if the license is clear that only data gathered from OSM be shared alike leaving derivative or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/10/14 07:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually this would remove the virality from the license, a feature that was chosen on purpose to be included. The basic idea of share alike licenses is to infect other stuff that gets in contact

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/10/14 04:32 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: On 29/10/2014 09:05, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It therefore surprised me when I read the White Paper ... What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin to write a paper supporting their

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-10-29 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: I'm wondering if we should replace geocodes with geocoding results throughout the page. I think it improves clarity as to what is being discussed, and geocodes is not a term in common use for what we are discussing.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-10-29 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: A geocoding result is not the same as a database of geocoding results. Column 1 says the former is a produced work, but is silent on the latter. I updated the guide to be explicit about this case:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-10-29 Thread Alex Barth
Hey Michal - On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Michal Palenik michal.pale...@freemap.sk wrote: alex, please read 4.6 of odbl, which basically says there is no difference between derivative db and produced work with regards to database rights. 4.6 talks about disclosure standards in cases

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-10-29 Thread Michal Palenik
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 04:03:03PM -0400, Alex Barth wrote: Hey Michal - On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Michal Palenik michal.pale...@freemap.sk wrote: alex, please read 4.6 of odbl, which basically says there is no difference between derivative db and produced work with regards to