Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some questions about Produced Works under the ODbL

2010-05-21 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
1. Is it clear that a map tile is an image within the definition of a Produced Work--a work (such as an image...) resulting from using the whole or a Substantial part of the Contents?If not, what is the most typical example of a Produced Work in the map context? Consider a produced work of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] some questions about Produced Works under the ODbL

2010-05-21 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
What you're saying, basically, is that making a cake loses the (or some) properties of the ingredients, thus a produced work; making a car doesn't, thus not produced. (Of course making a car also entails irreversible actions but let's ignore that for the moment.) Transferred back to the map

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
So, in summary: - No attribution - Is a derived work released under Copyright I assume this hasn't been cleared and 'waived' by someone at OSM? Where can we go from here? I think that in cases where we can prove such a 'mistake' we should send them a letter and clearly indicate their wrong

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
Dear Mr President, I've got this photo showing you in bed with another man, here's my bank account where you can make a donation, in which case will forget about it... ... unless I need more money later in which case I might again remember? Honestly, what you're suggesting smacks of blackmail.

[OSM-legal-talk] Share-A-Like (non-) Verifiability because they are not publicly accessable

2010-06-23 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
Hello everybody, I am still concerned that some business users cannot make use of OpenStreetMap data because of the Share-Alike-rule as they don't want or cannot share proprietary data. Personally, I am a big fan of the Share-Alike-rule but I think there should be some exceptions. I have the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-07 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
Hi Frederick, However, in terms of ODbL the route description they produce will be a produced work which is based on a database derived from OSM a derivative database that is only used to create a Produced Work is excluded from the share-alike: 4.5 Limits of Share Alike. The requirements of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] public transport routing and OSM-ODbL

2010-07-08 Thread Oliver (skobbler)
2. If you manage to do your pre-processing in a way that only mixes your static network data with OSM, resulting in a data structure that contains information like transit from stop X to stop Y possible for these types of vehicles and so on, and then your router process, upon startup, reads this