Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fair use?

2010-10-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Prado, Renato (R.P.) rpr...@visteon.com wrote: Hello! Are you planning to just overlay your data over the background map as a separate and independent layer? If yes, then this would qualify as a collective work under CC and you just need to attribute OSM in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fair use?

2010-10-08 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Prado, Renato (R.P.) rpr...@visteon.com wrote: Well, here is a little idea, you can just distribute your data as a transparent png file or similar technique that can be overlayed over any map and let the users put it on top of what they want. During online

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal or not? user srpskicrv and source = TOPO 25 VGI BEOGRAD

2010-10-07 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 08:21:12 +0200, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Just an observation : These maps look just like if not identical to the russian topographical maps. mike Are russian topographical maps

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually I feel that you treated this issue a little negligent. The import guidelines stated since 5 March 2008 (quote): At the time of writing (spring 2008), For me, I heard about

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:04 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/31 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually I feel that you treated this issue a little negligent. The import guidelines stated since 5 March 2008 (quote): At the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-08-30 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I second that. Jane Smith janesmith...@gmail.com this is a fake account, just causing problems. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Jane Smith janesmith...@gmail.com wrote: copyright are the chains of the modern worker, holding to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Community vs. Licensing

2010-08-30 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Maybe we shouldn't abandon the relicensing effort, but start a new relicensing effort, focussed on fixing the problems with CC-BY-SA without adding on a dozen other special interest fixes like Produced Works and Contributor Terms

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-29 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Duane, I wonder how Frederik is going to rationalise having the Kosovo information removed, I haven't made a statement about the Kosovo information. I'm sure that whoever has imported it has made sure it would be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-29 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 00:40, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, my understanding (and I think Grant will agree) is that copyleft is an idea: I publish something in such a way that coerce others into sharing their work

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

2010-08-29 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
my question is, why dont you just make a fork for the new license and leave the rest of us to continue in peace? get the new system working and then we can talk about it. mike ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-29 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Eric Jarvies e...@csl.com.mx wrote: As follows: if X uses your data under a contract with you that requires use in a particular way (eg to mimic something like the GPL) and X, in breach of that agreement, passes data to Y then barring certain special

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence Implementation plan - declines or non-responses

2010-08-29 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: ...why should the onus of forking be on the license-change agreers? If this is indeed the case, then the ones who should fork are those for CC-BY-SA 2.0. because the license change is not going to work in the first

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Compatibility of new license with old

2010-08-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:56 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 August 2010 10:28, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 08/27/2010 04:43 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I would like to know if the new license is compatible with the old one. will we be able to use

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Compatibility of new license with old

2010-08-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Renaud MICHEL r.h.michel+...@gmail.com wrote: Le samedi 28 août 2010 à 11:14, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com a écrit : The problem is that we got data also from some GIS companies who wanted non commercial only. The cc protected them in some way. I will have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 28 August 2010 15:37, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: please see this as well, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODbL_comments_from_Creative_Commons What is missing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:12 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes it is true that it is a contract. It is contructed this way to make sure that internationally everyone gets the same

[OSM-legal-talk] Compatibility of new license with old

2010-08-26 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Hello, I would like to know if the new license is compatible with the old one. will we be able to use CC-SA-2.0 licensed data or we will have to get new contracts with the donators of data? for example, we have gotten much of the data for Kosovo donated under written contract for CC-SA-20, many

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Viral can be nice

2010-04-22 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Albertas Agejevas a...@pov.lt wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:50:50AM +0200, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/4/22 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net Am 22.04.2010 02:51, schrieb andrzej zaborowski: No other data gatherer in the world has

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM content on locked platforms

2010-04-05 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:36 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I would be interested in your thoughts on the legal situation here. Is distributing an OSM-derived data set on such a closed platform still

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OpenAddresses.org CC3.0

2010-03-29 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Hey, I started a similar project http://github.com/h4ck3rm1k3/OAD-Open-Address-Database who was first? mike On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hi All, I saw that http://www.openaddresses.org/ is using http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ does that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] signature

2010-03-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
! mike On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Gent Thaçi gent...@gmail.com wrote: Amazing! On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, we have a signature for releasing the city map of shkoder for openstreetmap. thank you to Namik

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] You may not sublicense your rights under these Terms to any person

2010-02-11 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I have tried to write to them, but all of the contact pages are 404 broken. I guess the internet filter of AU is working well! mike On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Stefan Neufeind openstreet...@stefan-neufeind.de wrote: On 02/11/2010 11:08 AM, Oliver Kuehn (skobbler) wrote: Hi Mike, you

[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a crisis Map of Skoder

2010-01-21 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
...@googlemail.com Cc: lorant.cza...@unoosa.org, chris.nicho...@unoosa.org, pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi, tir...@unicef.org, space...@unoosa.org The maps are freely available. A reference (German Aerospace Center, DLR) would be nice. Regards, Hendrik -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: jamesmikedup

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Copyright Assignment

2009-12-26 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
One issue is that copyright assignment does not work in europe, the fsfe has worked on some of these issues. http://www.fsfe.org/projects/ftf/fla.en.html see also : http://lwn.net/Articles/359013/ This is how coding/etc. for money works in Europe too -- you retain your moral rights, but your

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Grant for usage of a google mapmaper users data to me

2009-09-28 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: I'm not sure what you're going to achieve here. You can't use there POI's directly as they will have probably been derived from google's aerial imagery. If you are planning on visiting the places anyway then just go on