Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can upload to OSM. We as a community can't verify this. http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html mentions nothing, all we have is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Bing_license.pdf which we can't verify as authentic.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 July 2011 19:55, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can upload to OSM. All we have is SteveC's word that this is what happened, to the best of my knowledge Bing themselves near released anything definitive on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 July 2011 10:55, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: It is my understanding that Bing essentially said to OSM yes you can upload to OSM. We as a community can't verify this. http://www.microsoft.com/maps/product/terms.html mentions nothing, all we have is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The official Bing blog: http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/12/01/bing-maps-aerial-imagery-in-openstreetmap.aspx published by Brian Hendricks - Bing Maps Product Manager Oh, yes. That's

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 11 July 2011 11:30, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: The traced data is a new work and therefore untainted by the Bing license. (NearMap doesn't see using aerial imagery this way.) The license is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
What is worrying me is that the LWG (=OSMF=COMMUNITY) requires any contributor (us) to sign up using a CT, where BING can get away with a simple blog page. I *can* understand that, because it's not OSM that is addressed in this blog, but the individuals (us) making contributions. The permission

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Bing

2011-07-11 Thread Simon Poole
Am 11.07.2011 12:10, schrieb Grant Slater: The traced data is a new work and therefore untainted by the Bing license. (NearMap doesn't see using aerial imagery this way.) The license is also a specific terms of use grant to OSM with the condition the derived data is uploaded to OSM. .