Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-11-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-02 23:11 GMT+01:00 Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com: We have no significant third party ODbL data releases due to OSM share alike to show for Actually the Italian Government has designed their open data license (IODL) to be compatible with OdbL:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-11-02 Thread Alex Barth
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: For corporations its most of the time easier to spend 500K€ on a commercial dataset than to spend 5k€ on a Lawyer analyzing a licensing issue. If we add up the cost of all the time company representatives have spent

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-11-02 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/11/14 02:11 PM, Alex Barth wrote: We have no significant third party ODbL data releases due to OSM share alike to show for, Then clearly OMS should have stuck with BY-SA for the database, as that did gain third party data releases. but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-30 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 03:02:27PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually this would remove the virality from the license, a feature that was chosen on purpose to be included. The basic idea of share alike licenses is to infect other stuff that gets in contact with the share-alike

[OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
The ODbL that we now use for OSM data technically only applies to the database, and not to individual contents contained within it. For that, the ODbL says you need a separate licence [1]. I was under the impression that for OSM's data this licence was the ODC's Database Contents Licence (DbCL)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread SomeoneElse
On 29/10/2014 09:05, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It therefore surprised me when I read the White Paper ... What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin to write a paper supporting their commercial point of view re the licensing of OpenStreetMap data. Does it really deserve

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-29 12:32 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk: What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin doesn't seem to be a nobody in this field though: Kevin is the Executive Director of the Centre for Spatial Law and Policy and a lawyer focusing on the unique legal and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Sachin Dole
I am unpaid nobody in the context of last two emails on this thread. In my opinion, it sure would be nice for users (not contributors alone) if there was lot more clarity. I imagine, from my point of view, that contributors and other stakeholders might also benefit from commercial users if the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-29 13:47 GMT+01:00 Sachin Dole sd...@genvega.com: ... if there was lot more clarity. I imagine, ..., that contributors and other stakeholders might also benefit from commercial users if the license is clear that only data gathered from OSM be shared alike leaving derivative or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/10/14 07:02 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually this would remove the virality from the license, a feature that was chosen on purpose to be included. The basic idea of share alike licenses is to infect other stuff that gets in contact

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contents Licence for OSM Data

2014-10-29 Thread Rob Myers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/10/14 04:32 AM, SomeoneElse wrote: On 29/10/2014 09:05, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: It therefore surprised me when I read the White Paper ... What I read was MapBox pays some bloke called Kevin to write a paper supporting their