Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-30 Thread Simon Ward
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:28:05AM -0700, Kai Krueger wrote: There appear to be some interesting thoughts about this in the most recent LWG meeting minutes ( https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_89cczk73gk ) in the Contributor Terms Revision section: e.g. If you want to import data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-30 Thread Mike Dupont
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Simon Ward si...@bleah.co.uk wrote: In any case, if I host my data elsewhere, and then “import” it into OpenStreetMap, do I get around this, or am I just being too hopeful? yes, setup a company in the bahamas that holds all intellectual rights of yours, that

[OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
Hi, I have been reading more about how to deal with the licenses of Albania and Kosovo data we have been acquiring. I must admit, I am still skeptical about this new license, but after re-reading it a few times, it might work. The basic idea is that it is codifying what is implicit in copyright

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 October 2010 00:07, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I have written to the people who donated the data to dual license it under the oodbl as well as under the creative commons. http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/ That may not be enough, as they would

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:25 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 October 2010 00:07, Mike  Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I have written to the people who donated the data to dual license it under the oodbl as well as under the creative commons.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Kai Krueger
JohnSmitty wrote: That may not be enough, as they would have to agree to allow OSM to relicense it in future, not just agree to ODBL: There appear to be some interesting thoughts about this in the most recent LWG meeting minutes ( https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_89cczk73gk ) in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 October 2010 03:56, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: I see, and there is no way around this? So everyone in the world become bound by the contributor terms? does anything think this is even feasible? Those trying to push OSM towards PD think it's feasible and are doing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread John Smith
On 30 October 2010 04:28, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: There appear to be some interesting thoughts about this in the most recent LWG meeting minutes ( https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_89cczk73gk ) in the Contributor Terms Revision section: Until recently there was no

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Dupont
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to import data copyrighted by others or where they are exerting a copyright over data that you have derived by a method such as tracing, the copyright should be compatible with ODbL 1.0.  You do not need to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] How to deal with CC 2.0 data imports? Proposal Dual licensing of data under odbl-1.0

2010-10-29 Thread Rob Myers
On 10/29/2010 08:09 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Kai Kruegerkakrue...@gmail.com wrote: If you want to import data copyrighted by others or where they are exerting a copyright over data that you have derived by a method such as tracing, the copyright should be