Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Hi Tobias - :) I will get in trouble with my team if I veer into a pricing discussion, but like I said, shoot me an email with what you're working on, and I can at least connect you with the right folks to talk to. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Tobias Wendorff < tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de> wrote: > Am Di, 6.09.2016, 20:14 schrieb Michael Steffen: > > > > We have hundreds of customers hosting their own private data on our > secure > > infrastructure. Many customers are also hosting private data that they > > license from 3rd parties. Give me a holler if you want to talk. Good > post > > about private maps > > https://www.mapbox.com/blog/private-maps-data-encryption/ > > That's offtopic, but private maps are available on the $499/month package > only. Pardon, but that's nothing reasonable for most of the projects. > > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > -- This is a private email. Please check with me before forwarding, as it may include information that's confidential or protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you feel like this email was sent to you by mistake, please delete it and let me know. Thanks! ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Am Di, 6.09.2016, 20:14 schrieb Michael Steffen: > > We have hundreds of customers hosting their own private data on our secure > infrastructure. Many customers are also hosting private data that they > license from 3rd parties. Give me a holler if you want to talk. Good post > about private maps > https://www.mapbox.com/blog/private-maps-data-encryption/ That's offtopic, but private maps are available on the $499/month package only. Pardon, but that's nothing reasonable for most of the projects. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Hi Tobias - The rendered image is a Produced Work (no different than a printed map), so the combination is fine. There's no real difference vs rendering a combined image from raster tiles. We have hundreds of customers hosting their own private data on our secure infrastructure. Many customers are also hosting private data that they license from 3rd parties. Give me a holler if you want to talk. Good post about private maps https://www.mapbox.com/blog/private-maps-data-encryption/ . On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Tobias Wendorff < tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de> wrote: > Am Di, 6.09.2016, 17:33 schrieb Michael Steffen: > > > > This should be totally fine. Feel free to reach out directly if you > > want to talk in more detail. > > Yeah, I might contact you in the next days. A problem could be that I > have to upload the non-free data to Mapbox. This might violate the data's > copyright. > > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > -- This is a private email. Please check with me before forwarding, as it may include information that's confidential or protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you feel like this email was sent to you by mistake, please delete it and let me know. Thanks! ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Am Di, 6.09.2016, 18:34 schrieb Jeffrey Johnson: > Tobias, note there are a few options for serving your own MVT pbf > tiles outside of the mapbox ecosystem. Check projects like > https://github.com/pka/t-rex and https://github.com/terranodo/tegola Thanks! I'll play around on my machine with this. Mapbox is nice, but too "closed" for some projects. > Also, we just setup a Vector Tiles list on osgeo to discuss this type > of thing. https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/vector-tiles There > was a great BoF at FOSS4G Bonn and this type of question came up > already. Yeah, I've watched some of the videos. Thanks for the hint. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Tobias, note there are a few options for serving your own MVT pbf tiles outside of the mapbox ecosystem. Check projects like https://github.com/pka/t-rex and https://github.com/terranodo/tegola Also, we just setup a Vector Tiles list on osgeo to discuss this type of thing. https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/vector-tiles There was a great BoF at FOSS4G Bonn and this type of question came up already. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > Am Di, 6.09.2016, 17:33 schrieb Michael Steffen: >> >> This should be totally fine. Feel free to reach out directly if you >> want to talk in more detail. > > Yeah, I might contact you in the next days. A problem could be that I > have to upload the non-free data to Mapbox. This might violate the data's > copyright. > > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Am Di, 6.09.2016, 17:33 schrieb Michael Steffen: > > This should be totally fine. Feel free to reach out directly if you > want to talk in more detail. Yeah, I might contact you in the next days. A problem could be that I have to upload the non-free data to Mapbox. This might violate the data's copyright. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Am Di, 6.09.2016, 17:08 schrieb Rory McCann: > > Not really. Vector tiles (*.mvt) are protobuf files, not sqlite files > (you might be thinking of mbtiles). It doesn't really matter for your > example, since you could filter a mvt file to split out the different > layers. Yeah, I messed this up - thanks for clarification. But in the end, the question stays the same ;) So even rendering one unsplitable image in the user's browser doesn't violate ODbL? In the past, it was common practice to deliver OSM data and non-free data on seperate layers. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
Hi Tobias - Michael at Mapbox here. Just overlay, no other interaction. This should be totally fine. Feel free to reach out directly if you want to talk in more detail. -Michael On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Rory McCann wrote: > On 06/09/16 15:13, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > > Actually, these vector formats are modified SQLite databases > > Not really. Vector tiles (*.mvt) are protobuf files, not sqlite files > (you might be thinking of mbtiles). It doesn't really matter for your > example, since you could filter a mvt file to split out the different > layers. > > > ___ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > -- This is a private email. Please check with me before forwarding, as it may include information that's confidential or protected by the attorney-client privilege. If you feel like this email was sent to you by mistake, please delete it and let me know. Thanks! ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Vector Tiles: ODbL and non-free data
On 06/09/16 15:13, Tobias Wendorff wrote: > Actually, these vector formats are modified SQLite databases Not really. Vector tiles (*.mvt) are protobuf files, not sqlite files (you might be thinking of mbtiles). It doesn't really matter for your example, since you could filter a mvt file to split out the different layers. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
