[L-I] SAN MARTIN: CONFERENCIA DE FERMIN CHAVEZ Y JORGE E. SPI

2000-08-17 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
EL VIERNES 18 DE AGOSTO, A LAS 20:00, EL CENTRO DE ESTUDIOS NACIONALES ARTURO JAURETCHE INVITA A ASISTIR A LA CONFERENCIA SOBRE "SAN MARTÍN, AMÉRICA LATINA Y LA GLOBALIZACIÓN: ACTUALIDAD DE SU PROYECTO POLÍTICO AMERICANO. UNIDAD SANMARTINIANA Y UNIDAD BOLIVARIANA, EL CAMINO PARA EL PRESENTE"

Re: [L-I] a clip of bourgeois news on Colombia

2000-08-17 Thread Johannes Schneider
For what it is worth, this came through Lou Proyects marxism list: Hi Lou: FARC in Bogota? By the way the UP still exists. Also Partido Bolivriano In regard to MacDonald Stainsby's "clips from the bourgeois press re Colombia", in which he quotes a Reuters dispatch to the effect that the

[L-I] Re: a clip of bourgeois news on Colombia

2000-08-17 Thread Owen Jones
Comrade, Without wishing to trample over everybody's picnic, but, in my opinion, the Colombian situation is a very complicated question, as much as we are all thirsty for revolution. These guerrilla groups are peasant armies. Their aim is not the construction of a workers' state, but rather

RE: [L-I] More on the debate on NATO's war against the Balkans

2000-08-17 Thread John Catalinotto
I've been following this thread since it began and would like to intervene. I've taken the liberty of changing the subject title. Of course it started with the French/British/... takeover of the Trepca smelter (this follows a script laid out by a Soros think-tank--see Diana Johnstone's Feb. 28

Re: [L-I] Re: a clip of bourgeois news on Colombia

2000-08-17 Thread Louis Proyect
Owen Jones: None of these armies will have the ability to seize power unless they have the active support of the urban proletariat. Unfortunately, much of the urban proletariat are not only not actively behind the insurrections, but often are in fact hostile to them. The Houston Chronicle,

Re: [L-I] Trepca Takeover: By The Script

2000-08-17 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
Jared...I have no time at the moment, but if you could please *temporarily* cease the Kosovo thread? I promise to elaborate this evening. You are still quite welcome here. Macdonald - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:44

[L-I] Gramscian mode of geo-political analysis: Re: Forwarded from Anthony (onEnd of History):Crisis reconsidered

2000-08-17 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Comrade Anthony wrote: 3. Transportation costs were cut to almost nothing - making mass exports of heavy machinery - especially automobiles for the new mass markets, economically possible. Is this an evidence that capitalism has survived its own contradictions? In the third world, many

[L-I] Re: Forwarded from Anthony (reply to Owen)

2000-08-17 Thread Owen Jones
I would just like to express my deep gratitude to Anthony for explaining the situation in Colombia so well with superb intellect and clarity; this demolishes many of the illusions some on the Left express on the "Colombian revolution", from which I am just as guilty due to sheer ignorance. I am

[L-I] Nader not as Green as he says he is

2000-08-17 Thread Khafara
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40056-2000Aug16.html Nader Picks a Milder Shade of Green By Cathy Newman Washington Post Staff Writer Thursday , August 17, 2000 ; A20 It's Wednesday, Nov. 8. Think, for a moment, the unthinkable: Ralph Nader has made it to the White House. As

Re: [L-I] Re: a clip of bourgeois news on Colombia

2000-08-17 Thread Tony Abdo
Louis correctly underlined the significance of the M19/ Union Patriotica experience in Colombia. FARC has the classic characteristic of a National Popular Front, resisting a capitalist government, now propped up by an imperialistic foreign power. To construe an armed struggle fighting a

Re: [L-I] Re: a clip of bourgeois news on Colombia

2000-08-17 Thread Johannes Schneider
Owen Jones wrote: None of these armies will have the ability to seize power unless they have the active support of the urban proletariat. Unfortunately, much of the urban proletariat are not only not actively behind the insurrections, but often are in fact hostile to them. Louis

Re: [L-I] Re: a clip of bourgeois news on Colombia

2000-08-17 Thread Johannes Schneider
Owen, first of all welcome back to L-I. I agree with most of what you have said about the need for peasant-worker alliance and the class character of guerilla movements, but havent there been historic examples of rural guerilla armies winning state power without the active support of the urban