[L-I] Moderator's note

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a RE: [L-I] Cuba, el 28 Aug 00, a las 15:40, Mark Jones dijo: Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: In the end, the result of all this is either deserved and navel- gazing loneliness for the Left, or tremendous defeats (such as in Bolivia, 1972) for the masses. Anton, I am

Re: [L-I] Cuba

2000-08-29 Thread A.Wosni
A simple answer, Nestor:I didn't say anything like that. I just said both ideologies are not identical and Marxists primarily deal with class not nation. They support the struggle of oppressed nations not because they believe thatz on the basis of nationalism the crucial problems of the masses

[L-I] CPI(ML) Liberation Call

2000-08-29 Thread CPI(ML) LIberation
CPI(ML) Liberation call : International Solidarity for Struggle Against 'Plan Columbia' On 30 August, when Bill Clinton will be visiting Colombia in order to give his personal support for the so called “Plan Colombia” and to further the politics of US intervention in the region, many communist

[L-I] CPI(ML) Liberation Call

2000-08-29 Thread CPI(ML) LIberation
CPI(ML) Liberation call : International Solidarity for Struggle Against 'Plan Columbia' On 30 August, when Bill Clinton will be visiting Colombia in order to give his personal support for the so called “Plan Colombia” and to further the politics of US intervention in the region, many communist

[L-I] ML Update, Vol.3; No.34; 30-8-2000.

2000-08-29 Thread CPI(ML) LIberation
ML Update A CPI(ML) News Magazine Vol:3; No.34; 30-8-2000. Editorial: Police Brutality, ‘People’s War’ and People’s Ire If the police in India have long reveled in the reputation of being the nation’s foremost organized criminal gang, the credit of being India’s number one police state has

Re: [L-I] Cuba

2000-08-29 Thread A.Wosni
John Catalinotto schrieb: Ownen Jones wrote - People who have gone to Cuba who have talked to Cubans - and this is very hard since it is illegal for a Cuban to talk to a foreigner - will pledge their support for the Revolution and even list its various achievements, but they

[L-I] Speaking the same language?

2000-08-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Mr. Holberg: And something else: Marxists don't need to adore the working class (no matter what nationality) for what it is (as a class in itself it is mainly material for exploitation).Marxists look to the working class as it can be and as it must be if it wants the liberate itself and by

Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?

2000-08-29 Thread Tony Abdo
Anton, you are attributing narrow mindedness and being reactionary to immigrants that haven't mastered learning German. Has it not occurred to you why these immigrants might not have learned your language? It is from fear, and nothing else. Immigrants fear being ridiculed as they try to

Re: [L-I] Moderator's note

2000-08-29 Thread Norman Mikalac
thank you, nestor. some of us are looking for information - not personal diatribes. norm Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: En relación a RE: [L-I] Cuba, el 28 Aug 00, a las 15:40, Mark Jones dijo: Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: In the end, the result of all this is either

[L-I] Could you help me debunk an old lie?

2000-08-29 Thread Khafara
Seems the faddish thing among right-wing circles is to say that leftists are actually closer to being Nazis than are right-wingers. (Yes, they are going partially on the fact that the Nazis chose to call themselves "National Socialists" when in reality their version of "Socialism" meant

Re: [L-I] Cuba

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Cuba, el 29 Aug 00, a las 14:04, A.Wosni dijo: I just said both ideologies are not identical and Marxists primarily deal with class not nation. Too many mistakes for so short a sentence. To begin with, Marxism and "nationalism" are not two "ideologies". They cannot

Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Speaking the same language?, el 29 Aug 00, a las 13:26, Anton Holberg dijo: there is no need to defend every sort of narrowmindedness within the working class, and if people live in a foreign country for decades and don't hardly speak a single sentence in that country's

Re: [L-I] Why I am voting for David McReynolds

2000-08-29 Thread LROBERTS46
My suspicion of the Socialist Party goes back to them calling the police on the communists. ___ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to:

[L-I] Croatian War Crimes Witness Murdered

2000-08-29 Thread Owen Jones
-- Croatian war crimes witness killed Human rights workers in Croatia have criticised the government after the killing of a former soldier who volunteered to give war crimes evidence against fellow-Croats. The man, Milan Levar, died in a bomb blast at his home in Gospic on Monday. A