Re: [L-I] Re: Yugoslav Election

2000-10-02 Thread A.Wosni
Sorry comrade, but I really don't get what exactly you are objecting to. I did not say (and mean) that oppression in Kosova and in Dem.Kampuchea was of the same kind and extent. What I was saying is that there was oppression in both cases and that a lot of people on the left denied it simply

Re: [L-I] The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Though as far as I know at 9am central European time on 9.25th the results of the ,Y,yugoslav elections are not yet definite yo are certainly right as far as your conclusions on what to do are concerned except however for one point: the defense of the right to national sdelfedetermination of all

Re: [L-I] The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-25 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Tony wrote: It is clear that the Yugoslav government of Milosevic has been backed into the same corner that the Sandinistas found themselves in, in 1990. They called elections in the midst of a war with the United States. In addition, it appears that both leaderships misread their own

Re: [L-I] The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-25 Thread Louis Proyect
Tony Abdo: Let me make this perfectly clear. People and groups like Doug Henson, Ralph Nader, Solidarity, Labor Militant, the SWP, the CP, the DSP, the SP, and etc. and so on, are not going to be our allies in this project. Is this the Doug Henson of Left Muppet Observer fame? Louis

Re: [L-I] The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-25 Thread Carrol Cox
"A.Wosni" wrote: When you keep on rejecting the right of the Albanians to selfdetermination This position, always stated as a sort of given, is logically quite indefensible. Suppose the white inhabitants of Selma, Georgia declared themselves a separate nation (in order to reinstitute the

Re: [L-I] The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-25 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
Right now the results of the election have me exceedingly nervous, to the point of really nasty thoughts of what kind of self-defense the "regime" should use, if they have not collected enough ballots to declare victory or stalemate. I don't apologise for any of these thoughts, including the ones

[L-I] The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-24 Thread Tony Abdo
It is clear that the Yugoslav government of Milosevic has been backed into the same corner that the Sandinistas found themselves in, in 1990. They called elections in the midst of a war with the United States. In addition, it appears that both leaderships misread their own populations dominant