Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-12 Thread vili
@edward: The value of the 3-part organization is that quite a few people might use Leo as a PIM, or to write documents, without being programmers. Hi there, I am one of those apparently rare freaks. I've been using Leo for several years now for all but programming. Yes, it has been a pain to

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-07 Thread Viktor Ransmayr
Hello Edwards, Am Montag, 7. Oktober 2013 02:30:11 UTC+2 schrieb Edward K. Ream: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Viktor Ransmayr viktor@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm interested to see how you'll find the right balance b/w what goes into the second third tutorial. The third

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-07 Thread Seth Johnson
Without exactly disagreeing, I think I should say that the previous design had the merit of presenting a simple idea: Leo is easy, and the main special insight you need, the hardest part of what you have to understand to get what Leo's about, is to understand what Leo lets you do with external

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-07 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.comwrote: Without exactly disagreeing, I think I should say that the previous design had the merit of presenting a simple idea: Leo is easy, and the main special insight you need, the hardest part of what you have to understand

A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
I think there should be at least 3 tutorials: 1. Learn the basics of Leo in 30 minutes. 2. Learn how to use Leo as a PIM in 30 minutes. 3. Learn how to use Leo for programming in one hour. Indeed, the Creating Leo Files section is out of place in the existing first tutorial: it's harder than

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-06 Thread gatesphere
On 10/6/2013 2:35 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: I like what you're thinking of above. It makes sense, and that's usually the best guideline. This is yet another example of refactoring text. Leo excels at this task, but only recently have I become obsessed with refactoring text in both large

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-06 Thread Viktor Ransmayr
Hello Edward, Am Sonntag, 6. Oktober 2013 20:35:30 UTC+2 schrieb Edward K. Ream: I think there should be at least 3 tutorials: 1. Learn the basics of Leo in 30 minutes. 2. Learn how to use Leo as a PIM in 30 minutes. 3. Learn how to use Leo for programming in one hour. Indeed, the

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-06 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Viktor Ransmayr viktor.ransm...@gmail.comwrote: I'm interested to see how you'll find the right balance b/w what goes into the second third tutorial. The third tutorial covers everything about programming and scripting. The rst3 command doesn't require any

Re: A 3-part organization for tutorials

2013-10-06 Thread Fidel N
Im enjoying all the steps of birth and growth of the tutorials hehe. I like that segregation between non programers and programmers for the 3rd tuto :) On Monday, October 7, 2013 2:30:11 AM UTC+2, Edward K. Ream wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Viktor Ransmayr