Re: Introspection for Leo

2015-11-16 Thread john lunzer
It seems like this acts as a sort of interactive interpreter plus the introspection. I guess it could be used to bypass what I often use IPython for, which is introspection. On Monday, November 16, 2015 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 04:46:28 -0800 (PST) >

Re: Introspection for Leo

2015-11-16 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 04:46:28 -0800 (PST) john lunzer wrote: > I think one way to make Leo more powerful and easier to learn is to > further expose Leo to itself. > > I recently was messing around with Terry's introspection script which > lays outs the guts of an opject in a

Re: Introspection for Leo

2015-11-16 Thread john lunzer
It was your mentions of Pharo which at least got me to take a look at that environment. Admittedly I haven't spent much time with it but I spent enough time to see the power that Pharo/Squeak exposes to the programmer. I'm not trying to make this a "LEO NEEDS THIS BECAUSE SUCH AND SUCH HAS

Introspection for Leo

2015-11-16 Thread john lunzer
I think one way to make Leo more powerful and easier to learn is to further expose Leo to itself. I recently was messing around with Terry's introspection script which lays outs the guts of an opject in a tree format. I did an introspection on g. Think of it as a dir(g) on steroids. What if

Re: Introspection for Leo

2015-11-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi John, Making a IPython + Leo kind of experience with truly interactive/instrospective outline whats what made me explore Pharo and build a prototype of the idea on it. It has been really pleasant and fluid, like nothing I have experienced before on any OS/Unix inherited development

Re: Introspection for Leo

2015-11-16 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, No problem. As I said, Leo could be not the best place to implement some ideas, which doesn't make it bad. Cheers, Offray On 16/11/15 09:43, john lunzer wrote: It was your mentions of Pharo which at least got me to take a look at that environment. Admittedly I haven't spent much time