Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-08-03 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, Just some comments, now that I have the time. On 24/06/19 8:00 a. m., john lunzer wrote: > > > The more one uses emacs the more it becomes obvious that it is not an > editor or an IDE or a PIM, but simply contains all those things. emacs > is not an integrated development environment (IDE)

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-08-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 7:19:47 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: Thanks for this. It lead me to a big aha, which I'll describe in another > post. > Here it is. Edward -- You received this message because you are

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-08-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 8:03 PM Jeff R. wrote: Here are the reasons why I use emacs: [org mode and elisp]. > Thanks for this. It lead me to a big aha, which I'll describe in another post. 1. > > The benefit elisp is that, with just a bit of knowledge, I can write > custom functions on the fly,

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-08-01 Thread john lunzer
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 9:03:36 PM UTC-4, Jeff R. wrote: > > For this, I think Leo, through the use of clones, would be well suited. > But doing that is itself a huge project. Orgmode has been built > collectively for many years, and it would be very difficult to build a > version of

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-08-01 Thread Jeff R.
I apologize it's taken me to long to follow up. Again, for the record, I am a professional who codes for fun, and who enjoys writing tools that I use in my job. I know some python, elisp, and cs basics and use linux. (For example, I do not know what Pyzo is or what it does!) Here are the

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-07-30 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:00 AM john lunzer wrote: I think emacs and pharo are extremely similar in scope. That is to say in > both cases you can (and are intended to) spend close to 100% of your time > within the computing environment. In emacs the features that help > facilitate this are

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-07-18 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, Many interesting use case from your original perspective. Leo was my main outliner to (de)construct complex text, as a researcher and PhD student. Clones are a killer feature on that front and I still use Leo to read and organize code which has been written by others. On your particular

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-26 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 2:32 PM Jeff R. wrote: I do not know whether I am remotely close to the intended audience for Leo, > but I can say that Leo does not feel far from the type of tool I would use > on a regular basis. > Heh. I think your interest suffices to make you one of the target

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-25 Thread Jeff R.
I apologize for my slow response. I do not know whether I am remotely close to the intended audience for Leo, but I can say that Leo does not feel far from the type of tool I would use on a regular basis. By way of background, I am an attorney and I run a solo law practice. I use emacs, and

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:47 AM Arjan wrote: > Whilst there is a benefit to the "focus" of seeing only one node at a >> time, in the cases where I use Org-mode I explicitly want/need to see >> multiple nodes at a time. > > > This is something I would really like to be able to use in Leo. Both

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-25 Thread Arjan
> > Whilst there is a benefit to the "focus" of seeing only one node at a > time, in the cases where I use Org-mode I explicitly want/need to see > multiple nodes at a time. This is something I would really like to be able to use in Leo. Both for writing text as well as code, being able to

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 7:36 AM john lunzer wrote: Sure, I've made a mock up to aid understanding. > Thanks for the picture. As you say, it's like org mode. BTW, it's also like MORE. the body pane as shown here is what you see when in Org mode, It doesn't > have a "tree pane". > I have just

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-25 Thread john lunzer
On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 6:14:28 AM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:00 AM john lunzer > wrote: > > > If Leo had a multi-node body pane which reflected the indented > structure/view shown in the tree pane then it would function more similarly > to Org-mode than it

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:00 AM john lunzer wrote: > [Emacs] is not an editor or an IDE or a PIM, but simply contains all those things. emacs is not an integrated development environment (IDE) but rather an integrated computing environment (ICE, just coined). Many thanks for this excellent

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-24 Thread john lunzer
Edward, I'm in a similar situation, I can give my own short experience. The more one uses emacs the more it becomes obvious that it is not an editor or an IDE or a PIM, but simply contains all those things. emacs is not an integrated development environment (IDE) but rather an integrated

Re: Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-22 Thread Joe Becker
... Or, in the classic koan: Does emacs have a Buddha nature? Joe Buddha -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Jeff R: What emacs features do you want?

2019-06-22 Thread Edward K. Ream
Jeff R: I have moved off of Leo and now use Emacs, mostly for org-mode but also for whatever else is useful. Emacs itself has features that I can't give up, or at least am not willing to right now. What are those features? Adding them to Leo might make Leo substantially better. Edward --