Re: Headline vs. Heading

2009-02-21 Thread jkn
Just wondering what the general opinion is--is that a stumbling block for others? For newbies? I wouldn't put it as strongly as a 'stumbling block', but I too find the 'heading' term sweeter. Jon N --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because

Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
I ran lintian (deb sanity checker) on Leo. The only error I got was with the license file (for talking about GPL - yeah, a false positive), which prompted me to look into the license: Leo is Open Software and is distributed under the terms of the Python License. It seem Python License is a bit

Re: Headline vs. Heading

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:25 AM, jkn jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk wrote: Just wondering what the general opinion is--is that a stumbling block for others? For newbies? I wouldn't put it as strongly as a 'stumbling block', but I too find the 'heading' term sweeter. This is too much of a

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: It seem Python License is a bit problematic: Why not just say, distributed under the same license as Python 2.6, namely the so-called Python 2.4.2 license. http://www.python.org/psf/license/ I am not a lawyer, but

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: I am not a lawyer, but I vaguely recall that Python Software Foundation discouraged the use of Python License / Python Software Foundation license for external packages. Also see:

Re: Getting Leo to Debian/Ubuntu

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: I'm willing to put in some work into making Leo end up in Debian (and as a consequence, Ubuntu). It will mean more users (because people find projects by browsing whats available in package repos), but I think Leo may

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: I would, in fact, have no objection to making all of Leo public domain software. In effect, it is that way already. Anyone can do anything with Leo. Period. I have not done so because RMS and others would claim that

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.comwrote: I was probably way too boisterous in my edits, trusting the wiki to keep history and manage dependencies . . Please do not make such big changes to existing pages as you have done. I'm going to move your page to an

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.comwrote: I was probably way too boisterous in my edits, trusting the wiki to keep history and manage dependencies. How does one revert a wiki page? Edward --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: I was probably way too boisterous in my edits, trusting the wiki to keep history and manage dependencies. How does one revert a wiki page? http://leo.zwiki.org/LeoWiki/recentchanges Click on the time to see the

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:34 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: I was probably way too boisterous in my edits, trusting the wiki to keep history and manage dependencies. How does one revert a wiki

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: I assume you are not familiar with what it takes to get into Debian/Ubuntu distribution. They are extremely picky about licensing, and unclear licensing is a surefire way to raise complaints (and cause outright

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. I'll contribute to this vast silliness by changing Leo's license to the MIT (or should I say X11??) license. Just MIT license. The template was here: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php -- Ville

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I feel less cranky now. I spoke too soon. Somehow only 6 recent versions are visible, none what I want. It is incredibly annoying to lose work this way. I thought I had saved the latest to LeoDocs.leo, but

QT Ipython setup?

2009-02-21 Thread tfer
I took a little time to run the QT version of Leo, it is looking pretty nice. However, some of the stuff I'm working on right now uses IPython, and there is a QT IPython shell that pops up when I Alt-shift- I to start an ILeo session. That shell is pretty non-functional with my current setup,

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone can find a way to revert the page properly I would be grateful. I did the necessary work by hand. It may be exactly what it was before, but it is close, and in one case is better than before. So, **Do not

Re: QT Ipython setup?

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 4:34 PM, tfer tfethers...@aol.com wrote: That shell is pretty non-functional with my current setup, it accepts typed input but does nothing with it. Saw a note on this list that I Did you enter it on the lower editor pane? should be useing Ville's branch, but I'm

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: The latest license is at: http://webpages.charter.net/edreamleo/frontMatter.html#leo-s-mit-license All comments welcome. Edward --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread zpcspm
On Feb 21, 3:47 pm, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: this vast silliness I feel your pain. Here is a funny reference on this subject. Some people might consider it rude, but personally I find it smart, hilarious and straight to the point. http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/

Qt: Reducing the scrolling

2009-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
I noted that leo always does scrolling in setItemForCurrentPosition. It used to check for 'scroll' variable (judging by comments), but it was disabled and now it always does scrolling. I tried calling it with scroll=False in afterSelectHint, and returned the old code (I think) that actually

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: Please do not make such big changes to existing pages as you have done. I'm going to move your page to an alternative intro page, and restore my intro. No need to keep the alternative, it was an experiment with

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: I did the necessary work by hand. It may be exactly what it was before, but it is close, and in one case is better than before. So, **Do not change this page significantly without permission!** My revision mostly

Re: New intro on Leo's wiki

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.comwrote: I did the necessary work by hand. It may be exactly what it was before, but it is close, and in one case is better than before. So, **Do

Re: Headline vs. Heading

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:25 AM, jkn jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk wrote: Just wondering what the general opinion is--is that a stumbling block for others? For newbies? I wouldn't put it as strongly as a

Re: Getting Leo to Debian/Ubuntu

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: - License fixed (see my previous post) I'll do this if need be. But I need much more convincing. I often tell BSD folks that the GPL is like disciplined organizing (like cadre-based organizations) -- or it's a

Re: Getting Leo to Debian/Ubuntu

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: - License fixed (see my previous post) I'll do this if need be. But I need much more convincing. I often tell BSD folks that the GPL is like disciplined organizing (like cadre-based organizations) -- or

Re: Getting Leo to Debian/Ubuntu

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: - License fixed (see my previous post) I'll do this if need be. But I need much more convincing. I often tell BSD folks that the GPL is like disciplined organizing (like cadre-based organizations) -- or

Re: Getting Leo to Debian/Ubuntu

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 2:26 pm, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.com wrote: I often tell BSD folks that the GPL is like disciplined organizing (like cadre-based organizations) I am not going to waste time arguing. I agree with none of this. Leo benefits in no way from the GPL or any other Open

Re: Headline vs. Heading

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.comwrote: Headline tells me that there must be some technical details I have to get before I really appreciate what it is. There are :-) Heading keys into established page layout contexts and lets me just go ahead with

Re: Should Leo change its license?

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:45 AM, zpcspm zpc...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 21, 3:47 pm, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: this vast silliness I feel your pain. Here is a funny reference on this subject. Some people might consider it rude, but personally I find it smart, hilarious and

Re: active_path update (Plone Product development mode :-)

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Terry Brown terry_n_br...@yahoo.comwrote: - You need to make a @button: @button doPath g.doHook(icondclick1,c=c,p=p,v=p,event=None) You can use @button or @command. Either way, you can, and probably should, bind a keystroke to it, say:

Re: Ctrl-o now can handle non .leo files

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Kent Tenney kten...@gmail.com wrote: I say 'read' because in vim the command ':r(ead) filename' will place the content of filename into the current buffer at the cursor position. and ':e(dit) filename' creates a new buffer associated with filename maybe

Re: Ctrl-o now can handle non .leo files

2009-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 12, 11:38 am, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: How about a act-on-node command? Great idea. Somehow I missed this more than a week ago. This would be similar to alt-I (push-to-ipython), in that it would invoke whatever operation is associated with the node. Currently,

Re: Getting Leo to Debian/Ubuntu

2009-02-21 Thread Seth Johnson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 21, 2:26 pm, Seth Johnson seth.p.john...@gmail.com wrote: I often tell BSD folks that the GPL is like disciplined organizing (like cadre-based organizations) I am not going to waste time arguing. I agree