Re: What's your favorite way to discover nifty new programming tools, ideas, etc.?
On 7/16/09, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: I've been relying on you, for the most part. It works, but is a bit passive :-) I use google reader + rss feeds for: planet.python.org planet gnome planet kde planet ubuntu planet debian (yeah, google reader makes it pretty fast to skim that stuff) -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Thoughts on Leo coding style
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: An example: def add_for_polling(self, srcfname): if not self.pollset: set up timer for timer_poll self.polldict[srcfname] = 0 I am moving away from this style. Imo, it encourages overly long functions/methods. More importantly, sections can't be unit tested as easily as a helper function. In Leo's core you will see many helper functions whose name ends in Helper. Edward --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What's your favorite way to discover nifty new programming tools, ideas, etc.?
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/16/09, Edward K. Ream edream...@gmail.com wrote: I've been relying on you, for the most part. It works, but is a bit passive :-) I use google reader + rss feeds for: planet.python.org planet gnome planet kde planet ubuntu planet debian Thanks. Here's a recent entry from planet python: http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/gates-puts-feynman-lectures-online/ Edward --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What's your favorite way to discover nifty new programming tools, ideas, etc.?
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~/.leo/plugins
Currently, there is no standard place for leo to look for plugins,
apart from plugins directory of leo distribution.
That place is bad, because it's somewhere in depths of platform
filesystem, and it's only root-writeable.
Currently, I'm testing my 'autosphinx' plugin (which works fine btw
:-) by this script:
QQQ
import sys
sys.path.append('/home/ville/autosphinx')
import autosphinx
autosphinx.init()
QQQ
However, this sort of sucks for the end user. Perhaps we should
introduce ~/.leo/plugins directory, where users could install third
party plugins?
It should be looked at before the distribution 'plugins' directory,
because the users could then download the latest leo plugins from bzr
without having to wait for new version of leo.
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Re: ~/.leo/plugins
On Jul 16, 7:51 pm, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: [...] However, this sort of sucks for the end user. Perhaps we should introduce ~/.leo/plugins directory, where users could install third party plugins? definitely agree J^n --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ~/.leo/plugins
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Ville M. Vainiovivai...@gmail.com wrote: However, this sort of sucks for the end user. Perhaps we should introduce ~/.leo/plugins directory, where users could install third party plugins? More thoughts on this: 1. It should probably be possible to have plugins as packages (subdirectories) in ~/.leo/plugins 2. This could be accomplished by adding ~/.leo/plugins to sys.path and referring to plugins like autosphinx.leoplugin (which would be handled by import autosphinx.leoplugin; autosphinx.leoplugin.init() 3. It should be possible to install leo plugins anywhere in pythonpath. This way, you could just upload the plugins to pypi and people could get them by easy_install autosphinx. 4. The current plugin system is a bit of a mess, in that every plugin is a .py file is in the same directory. If your plugin needs extra files, they are just on that one flat directory. 5. We could avoid making a definite choice about the plugin system by introducing a directory ~/.leo/initscripts. Leo would run every script in that directory *once* when it's launched (in arbirtrary (alphabetical) order). Plugins could be loaded by just copying a file there and doing the initialization. The point 5 is probably the best short-term plan, since it gives us unlimited tweakability without resorting to rules in .leo files. It's also less of a security risk than autoexec kind of scripts in .leo files. -- Ville M. Vainio http://tinyurl.com/vainio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What's your favorite way to discover nifty new programming tools, ideas, etc.?
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jesse Aldridge jessealdri...@gmail.comwrote: http://news.ycombinator.com/ has some good stuff from time to time. Thanks. Edward --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ~/.leo/plugins
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote: Currently, there is no standard place for leo to look for plugins, apart from plugins directory of leo distribution. That place is bad, because it's somewhere in depths of platform filesystem, and it's only root-writeable. I agree. Perhaps we should introduce ~/.leo/plugins directory, where users could install third party plugins? Seems reasonable. It should be looked at before the distribution 'plugins' directory, because the users could then download the latest leo plugins from bzr without having to wait for new version of leo. Again, this seems reasonable, but I haven't given it deep thought. Improving how plugins are loaded or unloaded has been on the list for years. Leo 4.7 would seem like a good time. To anticipate your next post, the subject could be considered a bit tricky. It would be nice to do as well as we can now so we don't have to change things yet again later. Edward --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups leo-editor group. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
