Re: Discuss: Release Leo only via GitHub?

2024-02-10 Thread Mike Hodson
Today after seeing the message regarding a new user being confused as to how to install, I decided I would chime in on this topic. I'm very much in favor of "ease of use" for the user, perhaps not so much for the coder (who already has far more technical knowledge than most users, as is needed to

Re: LeoJS - How To Print javascript Output?

2024-01-02 Thread Mike Hodson
I'll admit I have not scripted Leo at all, and have only used it sparingly as an editor/organizer because of oddities in autosave.. But why in all the world is a function called 'es' [I presume g means global scope] something that prints to the log window? Why is it not named something

Re: Heads up: The SessionManager class will go away

2023-06-29 Thread Mike Hodson
Out of curiosity why is the function of a session considered obsolete? This is what I have needed forever, a proper reloading session that automatically saves and does not lose data, regardless if I might have three drafts open that have yet to be saved to disk. The instant I create a new

Re: Code Review, Requirements, and Community Particiation

2023-06-26 Thread Mike Hodson
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023, 13:34 Thomas Passin wrote: > In the announcement about the proposed PR 3215 that massively affects > UNLs, @Edward wrote > > "I won't wait for a code review. The code involved is too tricky to > understand in an hour or five." > > This statement contains two red flags. > I

Re: Is there a version of Leo-Editor for the Mac? Mojave? Catalina? Ventura?

2023-06-04 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Jun 4, 2023, 18:53 johnksteven...@gmail.com < john.k.steven...@gmail.com> wrote: > Howdy > I use mainly Mac systems, is there an up to date Mac based LEO available? > > - > As Leo is a Python program, it should be distribution and operating system agnostic for anything that can run QT

Re: installation problems on Ubuntu 20.04

2023-04-23 Thread Mike Hodson
My first question of concern is why is there a homebrew path where this is installing? As far as I know pip should install into a local Python system-wide directory, or into a user directory if given the --user option. Second, with Ubuntu 20.04, do you actually have QT version 6? I'm not certain

Re: New Leo "Package" File Format?

2023-04-01 Thread Mike Hodson
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023, 11:48 Thomas Passin wrote: > There is a perennial problem when one wants to give a Leo outline to > someone else. It happens when an outline contains external files, or > images to display, or any other data files that might be needed. For > example, an article written

Re: New Way To Expand/Contract Leo Trees

2023-03-26 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 12:04 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > I agree that making Leo do autosave smoothly every few seconds or at least > often could be hard. I certainly wouldn't want it to freeze for a short > (or sometimes longer) time while it saved. > > OTOH, I'm never sure I really want

Re: New Way To Expand/Contract Leo Trees

2023-03-26 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 6:11 AM Edward K. Ream wrote: > I just lost 30+ minutes of work due to a hard crash. > > I think this is a problem with the internal design of Leo not consistently saving a state to disk that can be recovered later, like many[most?] other text editors today. I also think

Re: Test post

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Hodson
Welp it seems gmail / googlegroups doesnt like me today either. Tried to post a reply that said something more, and it got rejected. Stupid mailer-daemon. Mike On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:57 AM Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:45:35 AM UTC-6 mys...@gmail.com wrote: > > >>

Re: Test post

2023-03-06 Thread Mike Hodson
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 8:44 AM Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 9:28:15 AM UTC-6 Edward K. Ream wrote: > > I have been having troubles with this forum: > > And now google seems to be blocking replies (via gmail) to this forum! > Let's see if replying *here* works. > Edward > >

Re: Command To Run External File

2023-02-19 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023, 17:02 SegundoBob wrote: > Your "Execute script" code works well for me when I use it from a > Leo-Editor file that I open from a terminal, but it does not work when I > use the file browser Thunar to open the Leo-editor file. > > When I invoke your script from a Leo-Editor

Re: I'm changing Leo's mascot on Leo's web pages

2023-01-20 Thread Mike Hodson
Hi Edward, On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 03:20 Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 3:31 AM jkn wrote: > > - Most browsers can't render .ai files. > You seem to be overlooking the point that an Adobe illustrator file would be technically the source of _any_ output, bitmapped or vector. If

Re: leoeditor.com unreachable

2021-05-22 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:06 AM Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:18 AM Roger Erens > wrote: > > I'm getting this https://leoeditor.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi >> > > Thanks for this. leo-editor.com is my home page :-) > > #480

Re: How much can we simplify newbies experiences?

2020-10-16 Thread Mike Hodson
I would appreciate all settings enumerated in large settings sheets and/or menus. I am not one for looking at docs; I don't want to have weird settings (and honestly despise the settings/UI that current popular editors like Atom and SublimeText use, making a .conf with strings I don't see

Re: Easier docks: status report

2020-09-07 Thread Mike Hodson
All this dock discussion makes me want to download the latest sources and try and see how much of a kerfuffle this has become.. Without having used Leo in .. over 3 years or so now, I want to see how it feels to use it in a far newer default state, then configure it again. At least to me,

Re: PR's now required for the master and devel branches

2020-08-21 Thread Mike Hodson
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:05 PM Edward K. Ream wrote: > This is an experimental restriction. It can easily be removed. > > I think requiring PR's for devel and master makes sense. They alert > everyone of proposed changes before they take effect. The PR's themselves > are a permanent record of

Re: Arm (and a leg!?) for Apple

2020-06-25 Thread Mike Hodson
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:36 PM Thomas Passin wrote: > I'm not that certain, because I think it will need QT5 compiled for ARM, > and then pyqt5 recompiled to match. That should happen sometime, but maybe > not right away. > There is talk of Rosetta2 that should make it relatively painless to

Re: On the Semantics of Copying Clones

2020-05-26 Thread Mike Hodson
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:01 PM Edward K. Ream wrote: > Let's say we have a tree like below. Note that all nodes are NOT clones >> unless specifically stated: >> >> Node A >> + Node A1 >> + Node A2 >> + Node A3 >> Node B >> + Node A1 (a clone) >> + Node B2 >>+ Node A3 (a clone) >> > >

Re: Problems with abbreviations with non-english keyboards

2020-05-06 Thread Mike Hodson
The usual way seems to be a shifted comma and period. I suggest looking at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_keyboard_layout You're just able to get the key symbols as the OS hands them out, and I presume someone with a German keyboard will utilize it the way they have for years, making the

Re: Leo command line options are ignored

2020-04-12 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 4:27 AM Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 12:56 AM lewis wrote: > >> I have a windows PC where command line options for Leo are ignored. >> > > Are you starting with a batch file? If so, you should add %*. For > example, here is my leo.bat file: > >

Re: flash a message on autosave? asynchronous autosave?

2020-02-15 Thread Mike Hodson
I've wanted an asynchronous autosave since about 2013... I know I made a bugreport about it but was told the design of the program would not allow such. I've stayed on the list, waiting for years, and not actually using Leo due to not being able to always have content saved and updated yet also

Re: Leo 5.9-b1 released, "devel" is open, TravisCI fails

2019-04-12 Thread Mike Hodson
Searching the log for 'Error' case sensitively brings this to light; something seems to not like the same file name --- Uploading distributions to https://upload.pypi.org/legacy/ Uploading leo-5.9b1-py2.py3-none-any.whl 100%| 8.93M/8.93M [00:01<00:00, 7.67MB/s] NOTE: Try --verbose to see

Re: GitHub repository for leo4sqlite

2018-01-03 Thread Mike Hodson
Hello, I don't know your name, so I will just call you T. T, it seems you are using https://userstyles.org/styles/153180/google-groups-dark and somehow pasting the entire theme into the messages you are sending. Please reference the pasted actual-email-source at :

Re: How big is Leo on disk?

2017-12-07 Thread Mike Hodson
On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Matt Wilkie wrote: > > *(Who remembers buying his first hard drive for $$$. A 330mb scsi disk > drive that was 5cm/2inch thick and could be used as a boat anchor or to > crush the skull of a troll. Awesomely strong magnets inside too.)* > I

Re: On vacation until Aug 1

2017-07-21 Thread Mike Hodson
While you're in my beautiful city, I highly suggest you take in a trip to Lookout Mountain and Buffalo Bill's grave. It's an amazing view of the city, and an interesting historical tour that you can do pretty quickly or make a whole day out of it if you like. Hope you enjoy whatever you get up

Re: Why I prefer Windows, for now

2017-04-19 Thread Mike Hodson
I'm going to be probably the first to recommend something​ other than ubuntu: Sabayon. It's a 'rolling release' distribution that usually plays nice with new and old hardware alike, but recently (last year or so) stopped supporting 32bit platforms. It's what I use on my t460s, i5-3570k at home,

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-14 Thread Mike Hodson
issue with my own.. On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Edward K. Ream <edream...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Oh for the love of... >> What died?! I'm surprised as anything at this revelati

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-14 Thread Mike Hodson
Oh for the love of... What died?! I'm surprised as anything at this revelation On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Monday, April 3, 2017 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > Just ordered a t460s with backlit keyboard. > > Alas, I won't

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-04 Thread Mike Hodson
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > ​Just ordered a t460s with backlit keyboard. The video review I watched > raved about the keyboard, which apparently is better than the dell keyboard. > Cool beans :) I've had a good experience with this keyboard

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-02 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:07 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > ​Hehe. I see you have the essential "software": pizza, chips and pop. > It's a great recipe for hypertension, as I have found out. > > Alright then. I'll order the ThinkPad t460s. Thanks for your advice. > You're

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-02 Thread Mike Hodson
AM, Edward K. Ream <edream...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:25 PM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Edward, >> >> I've got word back from my friend that the Gazelle is most likely >> presently being updated to th

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-01 Thread Mike Hodson
something _now_ the 14.1 model, or one of the Thinkpad range are still my recommendations. Mike On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Edward K. Ream <edream...@gmail.com> wrote: > ​ > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Edward I

Re: OT: Time for a Linux laptop

2017-04-01 Thread Mike Hodson
Hi Edward I would recommend a system76 laptop they've got lots of different ones to meet your price point as well as your requirements for quietness I could even put you in touch with someone who worked on them specifically like actually worked for the company so he could attest to their quietness

Re: Well Kent, your vision for Leo is becoming clearer

2017-03-06 Thread Mike Hodson
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor < leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hi - I wouldn't discount SQLite either, DB wise, unless you need connect > to a *remote* server capability, but for local work it's quite capable. > And a proper abstraction layer should make it

Re: Two snakes on a plane?

2017-01-24 Thread Mike Hodson
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:51 AM, Israel Hands wrote: Tired of not spell checking I installed Pyenchant today. With no joy. Pyenchant installed itself to my Anaconda installation while Leo uses my original python install in C:/python34 I can't remember now why I installed

Re: Switching focus to Leo via Alt-TAB sometimes very slow (W7)?

2017-01-12 Thread Mike Hodson
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jkn wrote: > My apologies - upgrating to a recent version of Leo does indeed seem to > make things a lot snappier. > > I was thinking that it was a Qt or interactional issue, rather than one > just with Leo itself. I was also under the

Re: The design of Leo+Ipython+Jupyter+Lit-computing

2017-01-10 Thread Mike Hodson
I must ask, with all this extending to great big new things, all I've wanted from Leo for over a year now is the ability for it to save a file without causing the entire user interface to redraw itself. how hard is it to decouple the UI from the gears behind it, vs adding all this new cruft? --

Re: Deep learning, in both senses of the world

2017-01-04 Thread Mike Hodson
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > All the BASH knowledge gained from that never would have been had unless > that need had not existed. > * All the knowledge gained, never would have been, had the need not existed. Slightly easie

Re: Deep learning, in both senses of the world

2017-01-04 Thread Mike Hodson
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > When done this way, all the math study will be properly motivated. Yes, > we have to know about gradients, partial derivatives (of various kinds), > probability distributions, matrix algebra, etc. But we don't

Re: Leo will not use type hints

2017-01-02 Thread Mike Hodson
On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > They clutter code much like braces do. My one potential objection to the code cluttering of braces, is that they provide a completely non-assumed and guaranteed begin and end of a code block. I cannot explain how

Re: remembering Leo's 'file state' across sessions?

2016-12-19 Thread Mike Hodson
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Largo84 wrote: > Jon, I use these options all the time. In fact, they're in my desktop > shortcut link (Windows). Maybe this helps: > > Target: C:\Python34\python.exe "D:\Synced\github repos\leo\launchLeo.py" > --session-save --session-restore

Re: Eventfilter issues with either current GIT or my local install causing 'frozen' Leo

2016-11-10 Thread Mike Hodson
2016 Git commit: fc2652b0 Python 2.7.10, PyQt version 4.8.7 linux2 This is the current revision info of what I pulled today. Also, I realize I said I would give you a screencapture if you wanted, but ended up giving it anyway. Meh. :) On Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:52:23 PM UTC-7, Mike

Eventfilter issues with either current GIT or my local install causing 'frozen' Leo

2016-11-10 Thread Mike Hodson
Hi Edward, I'm not seeing anything when searching chronologically in the Group here for "eventfilter" but its been coming up for me me recently as an issue. As I read a bit earlier on the group, if you ctrl-c, you get traceback data. I did just this, and found that repeatedly pressing ctrl-c

Re: Devs: please delete your git hooks

2016-10-18 Thread Mike Hodson
And, seems curl has a -L option to follow redirects; I may use curl -LO from now on. It does not change the fact that the file isn't named the hash expected from the server: -rw-r--r-- 1 mike users 9502912 Oct 18 07:03 master@%7B1%20day%20ago%7D.zip On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Mike Hodson

Re: Devs: please delete your git hooks

2016-10-18 Thread Mike Hodson
Upload Total SpentLeft Speed 100 1600 1600 0340 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 364 On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >&g

Re: Devs: please delete your git hooks

2016-10-18 Thread Mike Hodson
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Exists? and without much effort on the user end and 0 on yours? yes. > Ok, changing the documentation is not 0 effort, I admit this. It's still pretty minimal versus coding something else. -- You received

Re: Proposal: remove commit_timestamp.json

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Here's an example. I downloaded > leo-editor-281522323a89c27b7c58338b1eaa624cbd383078.zip > from two days ago. How? I mean I must be missing something horribly wrong if I'm going to the same URL posted by Terry and

Re: Proposal: remove commit_timestamp.json

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Hodson
And, there is no hash in the filename. The filename it downloads is either "master" "master.zip" or "leo-editor-master.zip" depending on Chrome, Curl, or Wget naming the file (and/or after following the redirect manually with curl) Thanks, Mike On Sun, Oct 16

Re: Proposal: remove commit_timestamp.json

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > The zip file's name contains the commit hash, so the user can find out the > exact version. Isn't that enough? I don't want write any more code to deal > with this issue. > I just tried downloading the master.zip from

Re: My Perception of Leo

2016-08-29 Thread Mike Hodson
Hello Chris, Viktor, You and others have brought up great points about how Leo is used in a day-to-day basis. I'm having trouble with what appears to be "one" editing window. Please, correct me if I haven't figured this functionality out yet. Namely, I appreciate 'Tabs' and appreciate that leo

Multiple windows?

2016-08-09 Thread Mike Hodson
I may not be searching in the right place, but is there functionality to enable multiple actual leo windows for one process? I've got 2 monitors, and would love to use the larger one to edit the text, and keep both the document tree and log window on another monitor. Is this possible?

Re: The search for "Works like Notepad++/Sublime3" sessions

2016-07-01 Thread Mike Hodson
separated 'session content' saving buffer, that does not rely on the disk files being 'saved' to store the state of what was typed. On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I guess I should explain my use-case for this persistantly saved session > data... >

Re: The search for "Works like Notepad++/Sublime3" sessions

2016-07-01 Thread Mike Hodson
ta, unless my SSD refuses to sync() the sync() write it was just given and the filesystem metadata goes sideways when XFS is abruptly power-cycled'. Mike On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:56 AM, Mike Hodson <myst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi again, > > Great program so-far, excellent featur

'Recent Files' menu option visually odd

2016-07-01 Thread Mike Hodson
Hi there, Still another oddity: How can I get the Recent Files menu to stop telling me the name of a file, before its path? I would much rather see 0 /home/mike/derp.leo 1 /home/mike/mywork.leo 2 /home/mike/thing3.leo my brain does not parse thing3.leo in /home/mike My eyes are always

The search for "Works like Notepad++/Sublime3" sessions

2016-07-01 Thread Mike Hodson
Hi again, Great program so-far, excellent featureset no other program can compare to, but the small inconsistencies with regard to things that other programs do, and this doesn't quite do, are nagging me. Like the non-default session storing feature. Which doesn't quite fit the bill of

Re: Leo and the correlations between the single .leo file, and numerous potential @file(and similar) nodes

2016-06-27 Thread Mike Hodson
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Edward K. Ream <edream...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 6:44 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor > <leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 03:14:26 -0700 (PDT) >> Mike Hodson <myst...

Leo and the correlations between the single .leo file, and numerous potential @file(and similar) nodes

2016-06-26 Thread Mike Hodson
Hi, I've just started using Leo for its amazing outlining ability, to take notes, and such at first. I do hope to use it to organize source code projects, but do have some uncertainties. I'm so-far understanding the differentiation between @file (with sentinels I believe, as there seems to