Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

On 21/09/17 11:01, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > > wrote: > > Hi John, > > Thanks for these links. I just finished to see the Hopsotch video, > including questions, that are

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < off...@riseup.net> wrote: > Hi John, > > Thanks for these links. I just finished to see the Hopsotch video, > including questions, that are interesting to me as a Smalltalker, and is > curious to see the misreadings once and again,

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 12:34:25 PM UTC-4, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > > > I think that also. Gilad Bracha says something about how hypertext could > look like if you're freed from the web and its standards bodies. > I've been giving some thought lately about adding

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

I also think that Leo is unbeatable on deconstructing textual information, particularly programs made in almost any programming language. I'm pretty sure that it will be my tool of choice for a future archeology of text based programming languages and hopefully others will adopt it for similar

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

Hi, On 05/09/17 14:52, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas > > wrote: > > I think that the big idea is hypertext and hypermedia. Web, > browser, eclectic full stack development frameworks, and

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 10:42 AM, john lunzer wrote: > On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 3:52:55 PM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: >> >> >> When I was first learning to program, I often wanted to find some "magic" >> that would make tasks easier. Now, I have enough experience to

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 3:52:55 PM UTC-4, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > When I was first learning to program, I often wanted to find some "magic" > that would make tasks easier. Now, I have enough experience to know about > how much work a task will take. However, this might blind me to

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < off...@riseup.net> wrote: > I think that the big idea is hypertext and hypermedia. Web, browser, > eclectic full stack development frameworks, and other current trends and > common techs are just, kind of poor overcomplicated,

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

I think that the big idea is hypertext and hypermedia. Web, browser, eclectic full stack development frameworks, and other current trends and common techs are just, kind of poor overcomplicated, implementations of such ideas and the way to interact/develop in them. A web browser has 25+ million

Re: Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

The "web" (as in always connected to the net and files saved on the cloud) as a development platform is dubious. However, the "browser" being the driver is another matter. Given what browsers are designed to display this might be the most natural environment for mixing

Cross pollination: Hopscotch: dynamic browser-style IDE and Leisure: document-based computing environment

I came off a big project recently which fortunately (or maybe unfortunately) allowed me some time to do my semi-annual search for the holy grail of programming. I don't know why but I am never fully content with my tools and am always looking for a better way to interact with my system.