RE: New server specs

2006-04-11 Thread Jeremy Herbison
As far as CPUs go, we have some options. Pentium 4, Pentium D, and Intel Xeons are my three choices at the moment (I'm still not an AMD fan but I'll consider it too) as they offer nice amounts of speed for reasonable prices. The question is if we really need dual CPUs or not. They are nice

RE: Adding newer headers to llh (Was Re: merging udev_update branch)

2006-04-10 Thread Jeremy Herbison
I would like to hear from Jim and everyone working on the header project regarding this possibility: Find the headers that llh currently lacks that glibc-2.3.6 and linux-2.6.16.x both support and patch them into llh. The only thing that comes to mind is inotify support. Headers that have

RE: Adding newer headers to llh (Was Re: merging udev_update branch)

2006-04-10 Thread Jeremy Herbison
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 01:28:48PM -0600, Jeremy Herbison wrote: If I recall correctly, the kernel headers were unpacked into /tools/glibc-headers before glibc in chapter 5, and glibc used --with-headers=/tools/glibc-headers for both chapter 5 and 6. That's it; easy. Which book

RE: merging and consolidating

2006-04-04 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Dan Nicholson wrote: To finish this thought, alpha will touch a lot of files once Chris' dependency info goes in. The build commands are essentially the same except one change in perl. However, I think only chapters 5 and 6 are the only files affected, so there may not be that many

RE: [Alphabetical] Build order, Bug 684, Issue with Bash patch

2006-03-07 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Beekmans Although not in the book, I like to (for instance) build gpm before ncurses. This also necessitates moving up Bison (and M4) since gpm needs it. Basically, I'm just pointing out the usefulness of having Bison as early in the build as possible. Jeremy Herbison -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

RE: UTF-8

2006-01-21 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Here is another argument: Without the UTF-8 patch, there is still Partial (broken) UTF-8 support in the book. Some packages already enable UTF-8 (gettext, bash, glibc etc), and the testsuites require some UTF-8 locales. Thus, anyone who wants the UTF-8 patch removed should be responsible for

RE: UTF-8

2006-01-20 Thread Jeremy Herbison
I give a +1 now. The support issues alone, such as I built non-utf8, how can I add it now?, are enough to make me want it default on. The alternative solutions, such as an appendix, won't solve this support issue either. Having two separate books seems like a waste. For now, Alexander's

RE: UTF-8

2006-01-20 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Jim said: Talking to community members in cross-lfs, most of them don't want to be forced to use utf-8, because they don't need it. Others want to be able to test it, and if they don't like it do a build without it. No one is being forced to use utf-8. They're just building a utf-8 compatible

RE: cold plugging

2006-01-14 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Alexander wrote: Basically, it means that we have three options WRT udev and hotplug. 1) Upgrade to their new way of handling things, (i.e., linux-2.6.15 + patches, new udev, new rules, no hotplug). 2) Keep everything as it is currently (i.e., linux = 2.6.12, udev, current rules,

RE: Static e2fsck

2006-01-10 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Dan Nicholson wrote: Recently when doing some ICA on e2fsprogs I noticed that /sbin/e2fsck is statically linked. Is this what we want? I might need a solid blow from the cluebat, but seems most of the time we make shared binaries when possible. e2fsprogs builds both a shared and static

RE: Static e2fsck

2006-01-10 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Jeremy Herbison wrote: Except that you typically run fsck on an unmounted disk, so a fsck binary on the damaged partition isn't going to help you, whether it is linked to other libraries or not. So tell me how you run fsck on your root filesystem at startup if you don't mount the disk

RE: Static e2fsck

2006-01-10 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Jeremy Herbison wrote: Okay, but in the event that it finds a problem, you'll still need a recovery disk of some sort. Or, if it can't run fsck at all because fsck is linked to a damaged .so, you'll know there is a problem anyhow and you'll STILL need a recovery disk with a different

RE: Bash testsuite should not be run as root

2005-12-21 Thread Jeremy Herbison
Archaic Wrote: Is it a warning or does it not run the tests? Or do the tests run and fail? They run anyhow... execscript for example simply has this in it: if [ $UID -eq 0 ]; then echo execscript: the test suite should not be run as root 2 fi I don't know how running as root skews

Bash testsuite should not be run as root

2005-12-20 Thread Jeremy Herbison
The Bash 3.1 testsuite (not sure about previous versions) gives the following warnings: execscript: the test suite should not be run as root exec7.sub: the test suite should not be run as root test-tests: the test suite should not be run as root A non-root user should be set up temporarily, much

GCC Fixincludes test failure

2005-11-27 Thread Jeremy Herbison
I remember asking and finding a fix for this earlier, but can't find the message anywhere. Probably needs to be fixed in the book anyhow... Since fixincludes are disabled, the GCC (pass 2) tests fail with: make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/chroot/tools/build/gcc-build/fixincludes' autogen -T

RE: Finished GCC4 system build...some notes

2005-07-19 Thread Jeremy Herbison
The new fixincludes adjustments in chapter 5 don't work! find ${GCC_INCLUDEDIR} -xtype d -exec rm -rf \{} \; deletes all directories under and including $GCC_INCLUDEDIR! It should be changed to: find ${GCC_INCLUDEDIR}/* -xtype d -exec rm -rf \{} \; Secondly, the GCC pass 2 testsuite will

RE: Finished GCC4 system build...some notes

2005-07-19 Thread Jeremy Herbison
I wrote: The new fixincludes adjustments in chapter 5 don't work! find ${GCC_INCLUDEDIR} -xtype d -exec rm -rf \{} \; deletes all directories under and including $GCC_INCLUDEDIR! It should be changed to: find ${GCC_INCLUDEDIR}/* -xtype d -exec rm -rf \{} \; Also, GCC_INCLUDEDIR