Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-25 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 25/02/2013 00:02, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Of course we are not building Fortran or Ada or Java, but with the commands I wrote earlier, I do have the following in /usr/share/info: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 240866 Feb 24 19:13 cpp.info -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50231 Feb 24 19:13

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-25 Thread Tobias Gasser
Am 23.02.2013 00:47, schrieb Tobias Gasser: i'll report if i run into problems. i finished the build without any errors. this includes xfce, firefox 18.0.2, thunderbird 17.0.2, libreoffice 3.6.5.2, gimp 2.8.2. i did not check about warnings, but none of my scripts aborted with an error. i

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-25 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tobias Gasser wrote: Am 23.02.2013 00:47, schrieb Tobias Gasser: i'll report if i run into problems. i finished the build without any errors. this includes xfce, firefox 18.0.2, thunderbird 17.0.2, libreoffice 3.6.5.2, gimp 2.8.2. i did not check about warnings, but none of my scripts

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Armin K.
On 02/24/2013 04:03 AM, Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/23/13 20:13 CST: I still am not in favor of putting this in LFS-7.3. It's so much easier to omit the .info build completely and, of course, there is no sense at all in building it in Chapter 5. I really don't

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 08:13:36PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: It turns out that the above warning does not actually stop the build like s/item/itemx/ does. Leave it with me - even if a larger patch does solve everything, I guess a workaround will still be needed in chapter 5 for building

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 23/02/2013 22:52, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:24:54AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Cheers, I've just been preparing one (without the three ChangeLog parts). Attached. I don't think that's enough. The first failure is in

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 23/02/2013 22:52, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : I'm inclined right now to leave things alone. The book will build now, just without the .info file. I suspect that the next gcc release, whether it will be 4.8 or 4.7.3, will address the issue. I tested one of the latest

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 23/02/2013 22:52, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : I'm inclined right now to leave things alone. The book will build now, just without the .info file. I suspect that the next gcc release, whether it will be 4.8 or 4.7.3, will address the issue. I tested

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:31:23PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 23/02/2013 22:52, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Good point. I didn't notice that they were there by default. If the .info files are present, then there is no need to build them at all.

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:31:23PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 23/02/2013 22:52, Bruce Dubbs a écrit : Good point. I didn't notice that they were there by default. If the .info files are present, then there is no need to build

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:02:49PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Of course we are not building Fortran or Ada or Java, but with the commands I wrote earlier, I do have the following in /usr/share/info: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 240866 Feb 24 19:13 cpp.info -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50231 Feb 24

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: For anyone who builds ada (really ? why ? :) in BLFS, I guess they are going to be missing the ada info files. I did some Ada coding once (1990s), but not for production. It has *very* strong type checking and is sometimes used where very high reliability is needed.

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/24/13 17:45 CST: Ken Moffat wrote: For anyone who builds ada (really ? why ? :) in BLFS, I guess they are going to be missing the ada info files. I did some Ada coding once (1990s), but not for production. It has *very* strong type checking and is

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/24/13 17:45 CST: Ken Moffat wrote: For anyone who builds ada (really ? why ? :) in BLFS, I guess they are going to be missing the ada info files. I did some Ada coding once (1990s), but not for production. It has *very* strong

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 06:45:26PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Nitpick: Its Ada, not ADA. Ada stands for Augusta Ada King, Countess of Lovelace, the first programmer. She worked with Charles Babbage. -- Bruce See :

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: http://www.cvaieee.org/html/humor/programming_history.html 2008? Isn't it time for us to invent another language? Or should we leave it to some desperate Ph.D. student looking for a dissertation topic? :-) -- Bruce --

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Matt Burgess
On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 23:17 +, Matt Burgess wrote: I think it's probably fine too. I probably won't have time to run a test build this weekend with it in though. So, I managed to carve out some time :-) I've decided to upgrade IPRoute2 as well, so as we get support for the new networking

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 01:31:31PM +, Matt Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 23:17 +, Matt Burgess wrote: I think it's probably fine too. I probably won't have time to run a test build this weekend with it in though. So, I managed to carve out some time :-) I've decided to

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 01:31:31PM +, Matt Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 23:17 +, Matt Burgess wrote: I think it's probably fine too. I probably won't have time to run a test build this weekend with it in though. So, I managed to carve out some time :-)

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 09:56:20AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 01:31:31PM +, Matt Burgess wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 23:17 +, Matt Burgess wrote: I think it's probably fine too. I probably won't have time to run a test build this

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 09:56:20AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: I'll see if I can put together a consolidated patch. Cheers, I've just been preparing one (without the three ChangeLog parts). Attached. Thanks, I'll take a look. Rhetorical question: does it really break on

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: Cheers, I've just been preparing one (without the three ChangeLog parts). Attached. I don't think that's enough. The first failure is in gcc/doc/cppopts.texi and the second failure indicates problems in: ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc/gcc.texi

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:24:54AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Cheers, I've just been preparing one (without the three ChangeLog parts). Attached. I don't think that's enough. The first failure is in gcc/doc/cppopts.texi and the second failure indicates problems in:

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:24:54AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Cheers, I've just been preparing one (without the three ChangeLog parts). Attached. I don't think that's enough. The first failure is in gcc/doc/cppopts.texi and the second failure

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:24:54AM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: Cheers, I've just been preparing one (without the three ChangeLog parts). Attached. I don't think that's enough. The first failure is in gcc/doc/cppopts.texi and the second failure

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/23/13 20:13 CST: I still am not in favor of putting this in LFS-7.3. It's so much easier to omit the .info build completely and, of course, there is no sense at all in building it in Chapter 5. I really don't understand why texinfo-5.0 had to go into

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/23/13 20:13 CST: I still am not in favor of putting this in LFS-7.3. It's so much easier to omit the .info build completely and, of course, there is no sense at all in building it in Chapter 5. I really don't understand why

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-23 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 02/23/13 21:23 CST: About the only reason why is to avoid questions like Why isn't the latest version of package X in the book? Because it came out while LFS-7.3 was in package-freeze mode. Oh wait, we don't do package-freeze! :-) I look at it as similar to

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-22 Thread Tobias Gasser
is it a wise decision to use upgrade to 5.0 for the 7.3 release? as far i can understand there are no security issues with 4.13a but as i can see from google there are quite some compatibilty issues in different packages with 5.0 (coreutils, gcc, wget, qemu, docbook...) i prefer to keep the

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tobias Gasser wrote: is it a wise decision to use upgrade to 5.0 for the 7.3 release? as far i can understand there are no security issues with 4.13a but as i can see from google there are quite some compatibilty issues in different packages with 5.0 (coreutils, gcc, wget, qemu, docbook...)

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-22 Thread Matt Burgess
On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 17:13 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Tobias Gasser wrote: for the kernel i'd like to see the 3.8 branch in lfs 7.3, as 3.7 won't be a LTS kernel. i just finished a complete 7.3rc build (including xfce, mozilla, gimp, libreoffice, qemu) with kernel 3.8 without any issues

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-22 Thread Tobias Gasser
Am 23.02.2013 00:13, schrieb Bruce Dubbs: We've worked around the gcc problems by avoidign building the .info files (does anyone really use them?). i've seen the workaround. i don't use .info-files, i even delete them! I just did a test build of wget-1.14 with lfs-7.3-rc1 and got no

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-18 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:22:00 -0600, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then makeinfo --split-size=500 --split-size=500 --no-split -I . -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc \ -I

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-18 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 18/02/2013 10:45, Matthew Burgess a écrit : On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:22:00 -0600, Bruce Dubbsbruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then makeinfo --split-size=500 --split-size=500

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-18 Thread Armin K.
On 02/18/2013 12:16 PM, Pierre Labastie wrote: Le 18/02/2013 10:45, Matthew Burgess a écrit : On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:22:00 -0600, Bruce Dubbsbruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then makeinfo

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:22:00 -0600, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56258 It doesn't help a lot. It

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-18 Thread Matt Burgess
On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 13:20 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: We need to do the following in all three builds of gcc: sed -i -e 's/BUILD_INFO=info/BUILD_INFO=/' gcc/configure This just omits the gcc*.info files (3 files) and avoids building the useless info files in Chapter 5. Great, nice and

[lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then makeinfo --split-size=500 --split-size=500 --no-split -I . -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc \ -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc/include -o doc/gccint.info ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc/gccint.texi gives a lot of warnings in

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then makeinfo --split-size=500 --split-size=500 --no-split -I . -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc \ -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc/include -o doc/gccint.info ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc/gccint.texi gives a

Re: [lfs-dev] texinfo-5.0 breaks gcc in Chapter 6

2013-02-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Bruce Dubbs wrote: at least using jhalfs. It seems to build the executable OK, but then makeinfo --split-size=500 --split-size=500 --no-split -I . -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc \ -I ../../gcc-4.7.2/gcc/doc/include -o doc/gccint.info