Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-16 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 22:51, Joel Bion via lfs-dev wrote: > > ... > And with ARM, the interesting thing about it is that at this point there > isn’t much interesting about it. Apologies, this is going a bit off-topic but I couldn't let that one go: it's had me chuckling for over half-an-hour no

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Ken Moffat via lfs-dev
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 09:25:04PM +0900, Akira Urushibata via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 Pierre Labastie wrote: > > > the problem is not lfs, but blfs. There are around 750 packages in > > there. If those packages are all updated twice a year (some have > > much more frequent updates...

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Joel Bion via lfs-dev
I must agree with James’ spirit! I got IPv6 (static addresses) working with LFS and gave my changes back - it’s easy to do. And with ARM, the interesting thing about it is that at this point there isn’t much interesting about it. I haven’t built LFS on ARM, but if I did I would probably do so

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-15 Thread James B via lfs-dev
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 14:44:10 +0200 thorsten via lfs-dev wrote: > > I have a modified LFS running on Rpi 3b+ (aarch64) and on a bananapro > board (arm). I use them as Wireless accesspoints and low budget servers. > Basically the modifications to LFS are not too big. Getting the > Crosscompiler re

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-15 Thread thorsten via lfs-dev
On 2020-06-13 17:02, Saul Tigh via lfs-dev wrote: I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64.  The is a great hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wished for the support. What is keeping LFS from supporting ARM? What I have seen while reading forums and IRC chat,

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Akira Urushibata via lfs-dev
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 Pierre Labastie wrote: > the problem is not lfs, but blfs. There are around 750 packages in > there. If those packages are all updated twice a year (some have > much more frequent updates...), it makes 4 updates per day, 7/7. > Updates mean: get the source, check it is right (g

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 23:02, Saul Tigh via lfs-dev wrote: > > Well, There is PiLFS (intestinate.com/pilfs) which is LFS on Raspberry Pi > which in turn is an ARM architecture. The instructions are pretty similar to > standard LFS. Kernel and bootloader instructions are a bit different though.

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
Nope. Don’t underestimate at all. The whole point is why after a decade they don’t support ARM Goodbye > On Jun 13, 2020, at 11:00, William Harrington wrote: > > Once again, ARM is everywhere, who is a developer doesn’t have an ARM > device? LFS devs have always been against change. Yet th

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 11:15, Jean-Marc Pigeon via lfs-dev > wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-06-13 at 10:30 -0500, William Harrington via lfs-dev > wrote: >>> On Jun 13, 2020, at 07:25, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev < >>> lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: >>> >>> On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harri

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 07:25, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev > wrote: > > On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev wrote: >>> >>> I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "nazis" again on >>> this list. Nobo

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Jean-Marc Pigeon via lfs-dev
On Sat, 2020-06-13 at 10:30 -0500, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: > > On Jun 13, 2020, at 07:25, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev < > > lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > > > > On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
Once again, ARM is everywhere, who is a developer doesn’t have an ARM device? LFS devs have always been against change. Yet they will choose Systemd or GCC10. Once again. When is LFS going to support ARM? > On Jun 13, 2020, at 08:35, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev > wrote: > > On 2020-06-13 07:22 -0

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
> On Jun 13, 2020, at 07:25, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev > wrote: > > On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev wrote: >>> >>> I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "nazis" again on >>> this list. Nobo

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Saul Tigh via lfs-dev
> I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64. The is a great > hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wished for the support. What is > keeping LFS from supporting ARM? > > What I have seen while reading forums and IRC chat, LFS should be > supporting ARM. > Why is the book only targ

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Tim Tassonis via lfs-dev
On 6/13/20 3:30 PM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-13 07:22 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev < lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: I will also keep it short.

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-06-13 07:22 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: > > > > > On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev < > > > lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > > > > > > I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/13/20 7:03 AM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev wrote: I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "nazis" again on this list. Nobody here deserves to be called that. Andrew # I’ll keep it short and make all of you top

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
> On Jun 12, 2020, at 23:40, Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev > wrote: > > I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "nazis" again on > this list. Nobody here deserves to be called that. > > Andrew > > # I’ll keep it short and make all of you top level reply nazis angry. > # Why isn’t LFS

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Sat, 2020-06-13 at 00:05 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > On 6/12/20 10:00 PM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64. The is a > > great hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wished for the > > support. Wha

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-12 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/12/20 10:00 PM, William Harrington via lfs-dev wrote: Greetings, I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64. The is a great hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wished for the support. What is keeping LFS from supporting ARM? What I have seen while reading forums and IRC

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-12 Thread Gordon Findlay via lfs-dev
On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 3:03 PM William Harrington via lfs-dev < lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > Greetings, > > I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64. The is a great > hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wished for the support. What is > keeping LFS from support

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-12 Thread Andrew Nevai via lfs-dev
I will also keep it short. Do not ever use the word "nazis" again on this list. Nobody here deserves to be called that. Andrew # I’ll keep it short and make all of you top level reply nazis angry. # Why isn’t LFS supporting ARM? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://w

Re: [lfs-dev] Future for LFS

2020-06-12 Thread William Harrington via lfs-dev
I’ll keep it short and make all of you top level reply nazis angry. Why isn’t LFS supporting ARM? > On Jun 12, 2020, at 22:00, William Harrington wrote: > > Greetings, > > I’ve noticed that LFS is only targeting i386 and AMD64. The is a great > hunger for LFS to support ARM. Many have wishe