Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-22 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 10:46 -0500, Dan McGhee wrote: My biggest conceptual error was that I thought all the static stuff got used only with an ISP and their stuff is all on the router. Nope - the router will be configured to talk to the ISP, but your computer still needs to know how to talk to

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Dan McGhee
On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address unless you assign a static ip address *and* the dhcp server assigns the same address. Usually the dhcp server will have a range

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address unless you assign a static ip address *and* the dhcp server assigns the same address. Usually the dhcp server

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Dan McGhee
On 07/21/2010 09:49 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address unless you assign a static ip address *and* the dhcp

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Dan McGhee
On 07/21/2010 10:46 AM, Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/21/2010 09:49 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On 21/07/10 16:46, Dan McGhee wrote: I dug out my router book and learned that without changing anything the first address it assigns to computers on my network is 192.168.1.100 in the range 100-253. I can get the other 98, it reserves 1, by using the on-line utility. So here is what is in my

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On 21/07/10 17:09, Dan McGhee wrote: Had to change GATEWAY to 192.168.1.100 to stop NETLINK errors. I cannot, however, ping my router. Could you tell us what the errors are? Maybe something needs tweaking in your kernel config? Have you tried setting up the network by hand? Eg, as root ip

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 11:46:07 Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/21/2010 09:49 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address unless

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Neal Murphy wrote: On Wednesday 21 July 2010 11:46:07 Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/21/2010 09:49 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Dan McGhee wrote: On 07/19/2010 03:44 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: This is all discussed at 7.13. Configuring the network Script. A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Dan McGhee
On 07/21/2010 11:59 AM, Andrew Benton wrote: On 21/07/10 16:46, Dan McGhee wrote: I dug out my router book and learned that without changing anything the first address it assigns to computers on my network is 192.168.1.100 in the range 100-253. I can get the other 98, it reserves 1, by

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan McGhee wrote: Or are the numbers 2-99 available for static use by my machines? Yes. I've run into something, however, that may be preventing success here. I'm not getting any kernel messages like Link is ready or Link is up. The kernel should say: [2.361360] :00:19.0:

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Trent Shea
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 06:58:59 Dan McGhee wrote: Bruce, if I understand what you are saying in relation to the book--without knowing the why yet--if I copy and paste the entries in Chapter 7.13 to my 'ifconfig.wlan0/ipv4' I should be able to connect. Is this true? If wlan is a typo

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Trent Shea
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 12:17:50 Bruce Dubbs wrote: $ /sbin/ifconfig ip addr ;) -- Regards, Trent. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Trent Shea
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 13:09:54 Trent Shea wrote: Possibly irrelevant stuff. Digging around the thread it looks like you may have already installed the wireless prereqs. It wouldn't hurt to confirm that you're connected to your access point though, with iwconfig wlan0. -- Regards, Trent.

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Timothy Rice
From someone for whom the description Networking is My Weakest Area is also apt, I'd just like to say thanks to Neal and Bruce for explaining all that stuff about GATEWAY, BROADCAST and NETMASK. Very lucid and helpful. Although the information is presented briefly in section 7.13: Configuring the

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Timothy Rice wrote: From someone for whom the description Networking is My Weakest Area is also apt, I'd just like to say thanks to Neal and Bruce for explaining all that stuff about GATEWAY, BROADCAST and NETMASK. Very lucid and helpful. Although the information is presented briefly in

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-21 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 18:30:06 Timothy Rice wrote: From someone for whom the description Networking is My Weakest Area is also apt, I'd just like to say thanks to Neal and Bruce for explaining all that stuff about GATEWAY, BROADCAST and NETMASK. Very lucid and helpful. Although the

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 19 July 2010 12:01:55 Dan McGhee wrote: I've never really taken the time to sit down and learn the nits and grits' of networking. I don't have enough knowledge to even make me dangerous. Over the years I've not ever really had anything to worry about because I had a hard-wired

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Dan McGhee
On 07/19/2010 12:03 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: 1. Your router's WAN port has the address assigned by ISP. This address is your public address. 2. Your router's LAN port has an address from one of the private ranges, typically 192.168.0.0/16 (google 'CIDR'). This address is the default gateway

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Neal Murphy
On Monday 19 July 2010 13:33:43 Dan McGhee wrote: But, if I'm reading all this correctly, I'm not going to be able to connect to the interned until I install dhcp on my new system. Is that correct? Not exactly. You can work on a static IP address. Look on the router and determine the range

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Jim Michmerhuizen
On 07/19/2010 01:50 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: There will be a file in /etc that defines the interfaces and how they are configured. (On Debian, it's /etc/network/interfaces; dunno about other systems, or even LFS.) In my 6.5 LFS it's /etc/sysconfig/network-devices/*, with an ifconfig-ethX for

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Andrew Benton
On 19/07/10 18:33, Dan McGhee wrote: Thanks, Neal. This is much more than I bargained for when I asked. I knew about the router's dhcp server. At the current state of my {,B}LFS build I really don't need any connectivity since I can generate what I need to do in chroot. But, if I'm reading all

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: On 19/07/10 18:33, Dan McGhee wrote: Thanks, Neal. This is much more than I bargained for when I asked. I knew about the router's dhcp server. At the current state of my {,B}LFS build I really don't need any connectivity since I can generate what I need to do in chroot.

Re: Networking Is My Weakest Area--A Really Basic Question

2010-07-19 Thread Theodore Heise
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010, Bruce Dubbs wrote: A dhcp server does not interfere with a static ip address unless you assign a static ip address *and* the dhcp server assigns the same address. Usually the dhcp server will have a range of addresses it manages, say 192.168.1.10 - say