Re: ASUS EeePC Laptop

2009-09-14 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 13/09/09 17:26, Adrian Fisher wrote:
 Hello all,

 I want to put LFS on my ASUS Eee PC Laptop (40GB SSD) but it has no
 CD/DVD drive and I have no external one.  While it already has Linux on
 it it is a minimal installation as it has no compiler and no means of
 installing software manually, other than the few packages Asus saw fit
 to make available for it.  To this end I will need to boot from a USB
 flash drive, is this done any differently than with a CD/DVD drive?  How
 do I install the image to this device?

 Thanks in advance.

 A.

Ubuntu has a very easy utility in Jaunty (9.04).

Get any bootable iso (you could try the LFS live CD but I am not sure if 
it's h/w detection will support newer machines), then select

System-Administration-USB Startup Disk Creator

It will create a bootable USB stick from your iso.

HTH

Al

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Re: Asus EeePC Laptop

2009-09-14 Thread Richard Melville

Adrian Fisher wrote:-

 I want to put LFS on my ASUS Eee PC Laptop (40GB SSD) but it has no
 CD/DVD drive and I have no external one.  While it already has Linux on
 it it is a minimal installation as it has no compiler and no means of
 installing software manually, other than the few packages Asus saw fit
 to make available for it.

It doesn't have a compiler but it does have a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T), a browser, 
and even wget; so no, you can't build software on it but you can install 
binaries of your choice as root.

I have an EeePC for note-taking at events, and some web surfing and email, so I 
haven't done much with it.  Maybe you could create another partition and 
install LFS on that partition from a USB flash drive.  Then you could adjust 
grub accordingly -- just an idea.  However, storage space may be a problem.

Richard
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Re: glibc headers versus linux kernel headers

2009-09-14 Thread Ken Moffat
2009/9/14 Alexander Haley aha...@alum.wpi.edu:
 On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Alexander Haley aha...@alum.wpi.edu wrote:
 Alright, I'm using the 'package users' approach, and I've hit a snag
 where I don't understand the choice I'm about to make. Here is the
 scenario.

 One followup

 http://osdir.com/ml/linux.lfs.clfs.support/2006-07/msg00099.html

 This link starts a thread discussing this sort of issue .. but I'm not
 persuaded, since the thread goes along the lines of replace them ,
 don't replace them ...
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 Well, I could suggest FBBG.   If you look at how we build without
the package users approach, you'll see that we let glibc (and
potentially every other package) install whatever it is set to
install.

 From time to time, people using package management have
noted that files are overwritten, and *very* occasionally the
book has been changed because of that.

 Since you have signed up for the pain of using 'package
users', I suggest that you look at what is going to be installed,
and compare it to what is already there.  ISTR that glibc might
not support DESTDIR installs, so it's probably easy to destroy
the build.

 Perhaps the easiest thing might be to copy the directory
(including any subdirectories) to somewhere else (on the host
system),  make a full backup of the new system before
installing glibc, install, and then compare the before-and-after
contents.

 I will be a little surprised if any files are actually replaced.
My memory suggests that glibc adds more files to what is
already there (and if you don't install them, I very much doubt
that you will be able to complete the new system).

 If I'm wrong, or your view is different, you can wipe out the
new system and restore from the backup - that will also test
whether your backup process works ;-)

 Short summary - the first time you build LFS, folllow the book.
After that, feel free to explore whatever aspects of it interest
you, but remember that if you break it you get to keep both
pieces.

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libstdc++-v3: No Such

2009-09-14 Thread tangke
hi guys.
when I cross-compile the mipsel gcc,
but when I compile the gcc final, the libstdc++-v3 :No such file or..

I use the scripts with http://cross-lfs.org/view/svn/mips/

somebody say this is testsuite problem, but how can I don't run 
testsuite Makefile.in?

thanks a lot in advance.


mumutouv

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Re: libstdc++-v3: No Such

2009-09-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs
William Immendorf wrote:

 CLFS is no longer part of LFS.

Yes they are still a part of the Linux From Scratch family.
William, you don't speak for LFS.

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Re: libstdc++-v3: No Such

2009-09-14 Thread William Immendorf
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:17 AM, tangke mumut...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi guys.
 when I cross-compile the mipsel gcc,
 but when I compile the gcc final, the libstdc++-v3 :No such file or..

 I use the scripts with http://cross-lfs.org/view/svn/mips/
Wrong list. The CLFS people have a list for that for their book. CLFS
is no longer part of LFS.

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Re: Asus EeePC Laptop

2009-09-14 Thread Adrian Fisher
I noticed the wget package which is something I suppose :P  I plan to
wipe the entire drive so I will have the full 40GB to play with (I
believe it is split over 2 drives, 8GB and 32GB which should be fine). 
I don't really like the interface that comes with it but that is not the
reason I bought it.  I bought it with the intention of wiping it and
putting my own system on there.

A.

Richard Melville wrote:
 Adrian Fisher wrote:-

   
 I want to put LFS on my ASUS Eee PC Laptop (40GB SSD) but it has no
 CD/DVD drive and I have no external one.  While it already has Linux on
 it it is a minimal installation as it has no compiler and no means of
 installing software manually, other than the few packages Asus saw fit
 to make available for it.
 

 It doesn't have a compiler but it does have a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T), a 
 browser, and even wget; so no, you can't build software on it but you can 
 install binaries of your choice as root.

 I have an EeePC for note-taking at events, and some web surfing and email, so 
 I haven't done much with it.  Maybe you could create another partition and 
 install LFS on that partition from a USB flash drive.  Then you could adjust 
 grub accordingly -- just an idea.  However, storage space may be a problem.

 Richard
   
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Re: libstdc++-v3: No Such

2009-09-14 Thread William Immendorf
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 William Immendorf wrote:

 CLFS is no longer part of LFS.

 Yes they are still a part of the Linux From Scratch family.
 William, you don't speak for LFS.
I was talking about the fact that CLFS is no longer OFFICALY part of
LFS. It is tenicaly LFS, but it's not officaly part of it.

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Re: Asus EeePC Laptop

2009-09-14 Thread Ken Moffat
2009/9/14 Adrian Fisher adr...@leofcwen.com:
 I noticed the wget package which is something I suppose :P  I plan to
 wipe the entire drive so I will have the full 40GB to play with (I
 believe it is split over 2 drives, 8GB and 32GB which should be fine).
 I don't really like the interface that comes with it but that is not the
 reason I bought it.  I bought it with the intention of wiping it and
 putting my own system on there.

If you are going to continue to use LFS-derived systems long-term,
don't forget that you will need space for the replacement system
(/boot, if separate, swap, /home can of course be shared between
multiple systems).

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epiphany crashing

2009-09-14 Thread Ken Moffat
Anybody else seeing frequent crashes in epiphany while it is minimized ?
(this is 2.26.3 without any plugins, compiled with gcc-4.3.2).

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Re: Help

2009-09-14 Thread Baho Utot
Sam Vivacqua wrote:
 The problem is that when I type the comand  In -sv $LFS/tools /   I 
 get the output: -bash: In: comand not found

 On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Chris Staub ch...@beaker67.com 
 mailto:ch...@beaker67.com wrote:

 On 09/12/2009 02:26 PM, Sam Vivacqua wrote:
 
  Hi,
  For the comand   ln -sv $LFS/tools /in chapter 4.2,
 Creating the
  $LFS/tools Directory, you said there are a few variations, but I
  cannot figure out which one to use.  Can you tell me which
 will work
  and the code that I will need to type?
  Thanks!
 
 

 I'm not sure what you mean. The command given in the book should work
 fine. What's the problem?
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That is because it is ln ( as in ell n) not In (as in eye n)


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RE: Help

2009-09-14 Thread Spahn, Daniel


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[mailto:lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org] On Behalf Of Baho Utot
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:27 PM
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Subject: Re: Help

Sam Vivacqua wrote:
 The problem is that when I type the comand  In -sv $LFS/tools /   I 
 get the output: -bash: In: comand not found

 It's a lowercase L, not an uppercase I. The command is ln, not In.
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Re: Asus EeePC Laptop

2009-09-14 Thread Mike McCarty
Adrian Fisher wrote:
 I noticed the wget package which is something I suppose :P  I plan to
 wipe the entire drive so I will have the full 40GB to play with (I
 believe it is split over 2 drives, 8GB and 32GB which should be fine). 
 I don't really like the interface that comes with it but that is not the
 reason I bought it.  I bought it with the intention of wiping it and
 putting my own system on there.

You might consider using three (at least) partitions. Two of them
can be small (like 5GB). One of those is the current active LFS,
the other for in progress LFS. The third, larger, is /home for
the data areas for users etc.

You might want also a /boot, though that isn't necessary. It does
help with GRUB a little bit. That way you have a place to put your
kernel images, when doing the install. It also makes it easier to
edit the GRUB configuration and menu files.

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Re: Asus EeePC Laptop

2009-09-14 Thread Support
Mike McCarty wrote:
 Adrian Fisher wrote:
   
 I noticed the wget package which is something I suppose :P  I plan to
 wipe the entire drive so I will have the full 40GB to play with (I
 believe it is split over 2 drives, 8GB and 32GB which should be fine). 
 I don't really like the interface that comes with it but that is not the
 reason I bought it.  I bought it with the intention of wiping it and
 putting my own system on there.
 

 You might consider using three (at least) partitions. Two of them
 can be small (like 5GB). One of those is the current active LFS,
 the other for in progress LFS. The third, larger, is /home for
 the data areas for users etc.

 You might want also a /boot, though that isn't necessary. It does
 help with GRUB a little bit. That way you have a place to put your
 kernel images, when doing the install. It also makes it easier to
 edit the GRUB configuration and menu files.

 Mike
   
What about creating some space on another machine on your network and 
mounting it? You can keep all the sources off the eee and make best use 
of space then.

Phill
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