Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found
From lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org Wed Nov 27 23:33:32 2013 Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 17:13:29 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com To: LFS Support List lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found Gordon Findlay wrote: That's kind of what confuses me about this whole issue... the degree to which discussions here and elsewhere get so heated and angry. It's obviously supremely important to some people - but I don't understand why, when to me it seems such a small thing. I teach Linux, and this sort of change obsoletes a huge amount of material that students find in print or on the web. It makes Linux appear capricious and flaky in their eyes. Just to continue the conversation, I would ask those students if it's OK that Windows changes all sorts of things with each new version? Is it OK that older systems just stop working due to obsolescence. I too teach Linux, but I try to give a balanced presentation of the advantages and disadvantages of new developments. Most new developments are beneficial to some people. It's the attempt to force things that I object to. The prime example is merging udev with systemd. The prime example of disregarding that foolishness is LFS. I think the _prime_ example actually would be Slackware, in this and many other instances. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found
Le 28/11/2013 10:48, akhiezer a écrit : I think the _prime_ example actually would be Slackware, in this and many other instances. Any prime example on an LFS mail list is LFS ;-) Sorry, couldn't refrain... Pierre -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found
From lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org Wed Nov 27 11:07:47 2013 From: Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz To: lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 23:46:50 +1300 Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Ethernet Card Not Found On Tue, 2013-11-26 at 13:27 -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: The wording in this message comes across a little too strong. Yes, we sometimes get a little emotional about the foolishness that we see, but lets try to be a little more civil when discussing technical matters. That's kind of what confuses me about this whole issue... the degree to which discussions here and elsewhere get so heated and angry. It's obviously supremely important to some people - but I don't understand why, when to me it seems such a small thing. Then why are you so seemingly bothered about peoples' criticisms: But really, what's wrong with it? All the melodrama, talking about .. people getting so heated and angry .. - but what's actually wrong with it, that makes .. such a small thing .. a problem for you? You're expending resources to try to persuade people that there's no issue here. Yet the very fact that you've chosen this topic to get involved in, would normally indicate that you do attach some importance to it. So why is it important to you that people regard [init misspelled as rgeard (sic!)] this issue - and its context (that you side-stepped in an earlier reply) - as not important? Why are you bothered to be bothered? Why not just keep calm and carry on and accept what you're getting? rgds, akhiezer Simon. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page -- -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
