Re: AllowEmtpyInput
On 10/29/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/29/10, Ken Moffat k...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: Looking at what I'm using on the desktop, I see I added the following to ~/.xinitrc in January to reinstate the old behaviour for xorg-7.4. Apologies for missing this last night - setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp For me, not all things pass thru ~/.xinitrc (e.g., xfce) and thus my requirement is the ???/X11/xorg.conf.d/xkb-defaults.conf seen earlier to actually get ctrl_alt_bksp function. Interestingly, this works in xorg.conf although vim highligting shows error Section InputClass Identifier XKB Defaults MatchIsKeyboard yes Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: AllowEmtpyInput
On 10/28/10, Stuart Stegall kel...@keltor.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers edgaralw...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Bruce, I know, this issue is a little the field of BLFS. I am trying to get xorg working, a not to difficult task in former times. Now, testing the xorg.conf.new, I get a screen, with a dirty X on it, but no way to close it again. strg-alt-backspace is ignored, also the mouse. Cold reboot is needed. in Xorg.0.log I can read: (WW) AllowEmtpyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will be disabled.. OK, if disabled, I cannot work with them, that's clear. Question: what is the matter with this ? How and where can I avoid that this drivers become useless ? And ( granting a little, I am really tired ;-) ), what is the reason for this _new_ behaviour ? svn 20101023, xorg-server-1.8.2 Hope you can again help, and thanks a lot, Edgar -- Dr.-Ing. EdgarAlwers edgaralw...@gmx.de -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page This is usually an issue with hal+dbus. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't work anymore. AltGr-SysReq-K still works though. this was done because apparently people hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace quite often when they don't mean to. Add this to your xorg.conf to reenable that: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection You probably need to stop hal, restart dbus then start hal again and try xf86-input-evdev driver instead of the keyboard/mouse drivers. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page My DontZap doesn't work. This worked from here http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-dev/2010-September/020652.html arrs=$( \ find / -xdev \ -type d \ -regex \\\(/etc\\\|/usr\\\).*/X11/xorg.conf.d \ ) if [ X$arrs != X ]; then cat $arrs/xkb-defaults.conf EOF Section InputClass Identifier XKB Defaults MatchIsKeyboard yes Option XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp EndSection EOF echo $arrs/xkb-defaults.conf XkbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp fi -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: AllowEmtpyInput
On 10/28/10, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers edgaralw...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Bruce, I know, this issue is a little the field of BLFS. I am trying to get xorg working, a not to difficult task in former times. Now, testing the xorg.conf.new, I get a screen, with a dirty X on it, but no way to close it again. strg-alt-backspace is ignored, also the mouse. Cold reboot is needed. in Xorg.0.log I can read: (WW) AllowEmtpyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd' or 'mouse' will be disabled.. OK, if disabled, I cannot work with them, that's clear. Question: what is the matter with this ? How and where can I avoid that this drivers become useless ? And ( granting a little, I am really tired ;-) ), what is the reason for this _new_ behaviour ? svn 20101023, xorg-server-1.8.2 Hope you can again help, and thanks a lot, Edgar -- Dr.-Ing. EdgarAlwers edgaralw...@gmx.de -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page I think I ran into something similar once. All I can remember is that I had hal installed before I installed xorg and all was useless. Or it could be that hal was running when I was installing xorg (I really didn't and don't need hal). -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: glibc: 16.9 SBU, really?
Sometimes I try the 20-second fix-all: Shutdown. Turn off all power to all hardware. After 20 seconds, power-up and boot. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: glibc: 16.9 SBU, really?
On 10/20/10, Mike Hollis zzf...@embarqmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 03:18:26PM -0400, linux fan wrote: Sometimes I try the 20-second fix-all: Shutdown. Turn off all power to all hardware. After 20 seconds, power-up and boot. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Aha, the Microsoft solution!! You have moved your mouse, please reboot the computer for the changes to take effect Mike H. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Well, it has been known to work. Paper jam in cheap printer and it starts jumping around. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Grub2 and ext4
On 10/19/10, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers edgaralw...@gmx.de wrote: In my case - I am not excluding errors from my part-, I got, as I wrote, an error message not an assigment If one is brave and patient, it can be very much fun to get to the grub2 command line and experiment. set pager=1 turns the pager on so that if you try to get help, you can actually read it. set pager=0 turns it off again. The help is not very helpful. There is something of a find command (exact usage is forgotten), but i believe that such a command as follows, should print (hd0,6): search -f /boot/lfskernel-2.6.34 If it does that, and if that partition is ext4, then it must be able to read it. With a sufficient amount of bravery and patience, and an ability to make fabulous guesses one can often get the thing to eventually boot. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Grub2 and ext4
On 10/19/10, Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers edgaralw...@gmx.de wrote:
OK. I did grub-config. But as I am always a little afraid of touching MBR,
I did not make grub-install. This tourned to be a catastrophe. I got a
grub pront and nothing more.
I am always afraid of touching MBR and would almost never do so
because I know of methods to swim from one grub to another;
menu.lst can have like:
title grub2-stuff
kernel (hdx,y)/boot/grub/core.img
...
and if there is (hdx,y)/boot/grub/grub.cfg that grub2 likes, it will
go into grub2's menu
grub.cfg can have the enty you want, and just select it
...
The above scenario never installed grub2 into a partition.
grub.cfg can have an entry containing similar to:
configfile (hdz,a)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
...
and it will throw it under control of that menu.
To get from grub2 to grub legacy need to chainloader:
menuentry Chainload Grub Legacy {
savedefault
insmod chain
set root='(hdx,y)'
chainloader +1
}
...
[somebody may have said single quotes unnecessary, but I don't know]
These are just some ways to play grub.
I have very little love for grub ... and much less for grub2.
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Re: Grub2 and ext4
On 10/16/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:03:36 +0200
Dr.-Ing. Edgar Alwers edgaralw...@gmx.de wrote:
Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote:
The linux statement on the other hand tells grub where the kernel
resides and were root of the partition to be booted is. Is this not
correct ?
The linux statement on the other hand tells grub where the kernel
resides
Is true if and only if it contains the optional (hdx,y) specification.
... were root of the partition to be booted is.
True, it tells the kernel that.
menuentry KDE-4.5 ext4 {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,5)'
linux (hd0,6)/boot/lfskernel-2.6.34 root=/dev/sda6 rw
}
Since linux (hd0,6) immediately follows set root='(hd1,5)', in
the above menuenty, set root='(hd1,5)' is effectively doing nothing.
In the above, (hd0,6) specifies the partition from which to retrieve the kernel.
root=/dev/sda6 tells the kernel which partition to regard as the
root partition. If root=/dev/sda6 were absent, the kernel would
presume the partition on which it had been compiled.
I believe that the one statement:
linux (hd0,6)/boot/lfskernel-2.6.34 root=/dev/sda6 rw
would be equivalent to the 2 statements:
set root='(hd0,6)'
linux /boot/lfskernel-2.6.34 root=/dev/sda6 rw
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Re: glibc: 16.9 SBU, really?
On 10/15/10, Alberto Hernando pajaro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Well, the untarred files have timestamps of months ago, when the developers made the package. Even untarring with -m and getting the current time makes no difference. But I can post the part where it repeats: The untarred timestamps are irrelevant. It is the make target timestamp. The exact problem happened before at the exact same place. Setting the system clock correctly apparently was the fix: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2010-May/038711.html http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2010-May/038653.html Just a thought: The time from date and hwclock can be different. hwclock Display Hardware Clock. hwclock --hctosys Set the System Time from the Hardware Clock. hwclock --systohc Set the Hardware Clock to the current System Time. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: glibc: 16.9 SBU, really?
Also, not forgetting to remove any previously unpacked glibc sources and glibc-build directories before unpacking with tar. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Grub2 and ext4
This one said kernel must have ext4 support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/01/msg00190.html -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: SVN 20100923 - gcc-4.5.1, pass 1, won't compile
On 10/9/10, Neal Murphy neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu wrote: a jumble of data. See the attached script; it can give folks a clean, tidy Oops, I got FAIL: /usr/bin/find not found. Need findutils version=4.1.20 My find is winding up in /bin -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Stable 6.6, not 6.7 ?
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/ I'm confused that LFS-6.7 is out (I thought), and when I read stable, it says 6.6. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Stable 6.6, not 6.7 ?
On 9/21/10, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: I't possible your browser is remembering the old page. Try doing a refresh. All the lfs 'stable' entries are point to 6.7: Refresh fixed it. Thanks -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Adding user on LiveCD
The live cd has the user jhalfs which is already set up in sudoers (sudo). Once booted and at the shell, you can become jhalfs with: su - jhalfs Then can get into graphical desktop with: startxfce4 In the instructions that reference user lfs, substitute the user jhalfs I think that may work ok. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Error at 7.13. Configuring the network Script ( Book 6.6 )
On 8/13/10, Suraj Linux suraj.embedded.li...@gmail.com wrote: add_matching_files: unable to open '/dev/.udev/rules.d': No such file or directory Without knowing anything, I wonder why '/dev/.udev/rules.d' is missing. What creates it? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: 2 grubs
On 8/9/10, Alberto Hernando pajaro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Is it possible to have 2 grubs running in a same computer? My idea is to have the first grub in mbr, with the main OS, and an entry pointing to the second grub, installed in a partition with the LFS and all its options. I could do it with lilo, but now that I'm with grub, I'd like to do the same. I tried using an entry like the one I have for win xp but no success. Is it possible to do it? Re: grub2, I have failed to install in a partition. That said, my favorite trick is to put other grub conf file(s) on other partitions. Then, in the main grub conf file, add an entry configfile. This could look like: configfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/grub.cfg So, my idea is to avoid touching the mbr and making it unbootable. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: 2 grubs
On 8/9/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: configfile (hd0,4)/boot/grub/grub.cfg For grub2, before that may also be needed: insmod configfile -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Hit a Speed Bumps with Grub 2
On 7/21/10, Dan McGhee beesn...@grm.net wrote:
On 07/21/2010 06:08 AM, Andrew Benton wrote:
On 21/07/10 01:25, Dan McGhee wrote:
It's nagging me that currently grub sees nothing but my new LFS system.
Grub2 supposedly searches for one of the specific kernel name prefixes of:
vmlinuz
vmlinux
(/etc/grub.d/10_linux line 100)
So did you try adding this to grub.cfg?
menuentry Windows {
set root=(hd0,1)
chainloader +1
}
Better make that:
menuentry Windows {
insmod chain
set root=(hd0,1)
chainloader +1
}
To make rescue, *almost* as in lfs dev (note more than 1440 bytes),
grub-mkrescue --output=grub-img.iso
dd if=grub-img.iso of=/dev/fd0
Assuming sys is on first drive, fifth partition,
and it has made a grub.cfg,
once that boots, you can do,
configfile (hd0,5)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
Configfile throws it over to there.
stage2_eltorito is a long-in-the-tooth grub thing -- works great :)
Grub2 manual re: making bootable cdrom was essentially copied from legacy manual
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM.html#Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD_002dROM
The new procedure is (imperfectly 1440) mentioned in lfs dev, i.e.,
grub-mkrescue --output=grub-img.iso
burn that to cd
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Re: Hit a Speed Bumps with Grub 2
On 7/20/10, Dan McGhee beesn...@grm.net wrote: The speed bumps that I mention in the grammatically incorrect subject line have grown to a mountain range higher than the Himalayas. With grub 2, the first thing to do is panic. Done. The second thing is don't panic. 1. Review the grub-0.97 manual and use commands from that to see if I can get into LFS-SVN. I think you indicate that you can get a boot with grub-0.97. If so, it's a piece of cake. Put this in booting grub-0.97's menu.lst: title LFS-SVN (core.img) root (0,4) kernel /boot/grub/core.img If I guessed the right partition, that will activate grub2 using the grub.cfg file in LFS-SVN's /boot/grub directory if it is valid. If LFS-SVN's /boot/grub/grub/cfg is not valid, then you will get a grub2 prompt from which you can hack your way in. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Hit a Speed Bumps with Grub 2
On 7/20/10, Dan McGhee beesn...@grm.net wrote: Since my post of just an hour ago, my options have been reduced to one--write to the MBR. One of the files needed to make a completely independent bootable grub disk is stage2_eltorito, which is not present in /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/, or anywhere else on / for that matter. The stage2_eltorito is a long-in-the-tooth grub thing -- works great :) If you'd allow me to rant just for a second--or longer--the documentation for grub over the years has left a little to be desired I rant with you. ... a lot to be desired ... Maybe grub 2 is lazy to write documentation, so they refer to lfs docs. ... or maybe they haven't decided how it works ... -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: My New JHALFS Build is Gone...Missing...Not There
On 7/18/10, Dan McGhee beesn...@grm.net wrote: I've started again and that's the way I ran make except that, again, I want it to stop after Ch. 6 so I ran make mk_CHROOT NOT: make mk_CHROOT make BREAKPOINT=mk_CHROOT If you want it to stop after finishing target mk_CHROOT BREAKPOINT is all caps and no typos allowed -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Moving to JHALFS [WAS: Overwhelming Binutils Test Failures [info added] ]
On 7/17/10, Dan McGhee beesn...@grm.net wrote: 3. Can I shutdown if I put a breakpoint in the makefile call? Yes, but ... ... like driving a racing car around a track at 190 MPH, if you really know what you are doing, you'll make it most of the time. But if you don't really know what you are doing, a surprising number of things can go wrong. The technique for re-entering the build after a shutdown varies greatly depending on where you were when you stopped. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.6 Chapter 2, Preparing a New Partition
On 7/3/10, PRAKHAR gaur prakhar_aaid...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear All, I already have a 50 GB partition, which I had created while, Installing the host Operating System(Debian 5.0.5). Do I need to partition it again, its a ext3 fs. Or I can directly mount it in /mnt/lfs?, as its already mounted in /media. If the 50GB host Operating System(Debian 5.0.5) is needed to run (yes, I think), then you need to use a separate partition to contain the destination LFS system. I think 12 GB is a good size. 5GB is a little too small if many things will be installed (a typical desktop system with lots of goodies). -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.6 Chapter 2, Preparing a New Partition
On 7/3/10, Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com wrote: destination LFS system. I think 12 GB is a good size. 5GB is a little too small if many things will be installed (a typical desktop system with lots of goodies). I shudder to think about what you are using to fill that up ;) I'm still happy with 3GB for '/', with separate /sources and /home. Your system, your rules - just make sure you remember to back up. I went on a training mission to install kde4 and that would not fit in 5GB unless the sources are hosted on separate partition. Not impressed enough with kde4 not to remove it though. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS (Version SVN-20100529) - 5.9. Binutils-2.20.1 - Pass 2
On 7/3/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: If using bash a simple: #!/bin/bash -e set +h at the top of the script works, bails on any error Or set -e A few package maintainers manage to return 0 success from configure even when the configure fails. These may be rare or nonexistent in ch5 and ch6. When an installation finishes in very much less time than expected, it is a red flag. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: MySQL and More Control/Package Users Package Mgmt
On 6/24/10, Timothy Rice t.r...@ms.unimelb.edu.au wrote: It occurred to me that maybe once mysql is installed, info can then use mysql to, say, manage a database of entries, or something. Pure conjecture, but if true, it could explain why dir would need to be rebuilt. However, nothing I've noticed in any documentation for either mysql or info suggests that this is actually true. Now, if nothing like that is really going on, then may I submit to the BLFS editors that the suggested install commands for mysql be streamlined Info is documentation that I personally only consult as a last resort. Everything that installs any info documentation apparently updates that file called dir. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: A typo in the wget-list
On 6/22/10, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Philippe Delavalade wrote: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net//expect/expect-5.44.1.15.tar.bz2 That may be a typo, but it shouldn't affect the download. URLs are permitted repeated slashes. That's what I was going to say ... but when you click on it ... Error 404 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: A Kernel patch overview?
On 6/20/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: Is there someplace where someone writes about what's new in kernel patches? New and removed features, considerations about implementation, etc.? Someplace where we can see what's in it, whether it has anything for us or not? Kernel newbies is usually found in google search such as kernel 2.6.33 and writes about that http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_33 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Cannot execute grub-install
On 6/17/10, Michael Vahl mvah...@bib.h-brs.de wrote:
Any other suggestions?
Without knowing anything, maybe outputs would give somebody a clue:
ls -ld /boot/grub
grep sda /etc/fstab
sudo /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda
date
sudo /usr/sbin/grub-mkdevicemap
ls -l /boot/grub/device.map
: ... date should almost match date of device.map
cat /boot/grub/device.map
/usr/sbin/grub-setup -V
ls /usr/{s,}bin/grub*
find /usr/lib/grub -type d
ls $(find /usr/lib/grub -type d | tail -1)
ls /boot/grub
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Re: live and learn
On 6/8/10, Neal Murphy neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu wrote: ... You'll learn to pause before hitting ENTER. I learned that lesson very quickly. It is extremely important. My system wouldn't last long without backups. Speaking of backups and rescue disks, I am using an rsync snapshots style of backup. It does not compress, yet it can save multiple copies of a system at different points in time using remarkable little disk space. Any copy can be rsynced to any mount point and so I can recover or load up any system copy in around 20 minutes. I have several LFS builds (2 are 6.6), a few Fedoras, and miscellaneous others. I loaded and ran FC4 the other day. I made a snapshot of my current system yesterday, before installing some experimental stuff. The backup might have looked something like this: mount LABEL=BACK_UPS /back_up back_up snapdir=/back_ups/LFS-6-2 My last restoration might have looked something like this: mount LABEL=BACK_UPS /back_ups mount /dev/[bla-bla] /mnt cd /mnt R-M-minus-R-star (you never write that in a post) rsync -aH --numeric-ids /back_ups/LFS-6-2/root_fs/back_up.0/. /mnt/ More info on these rsync snapshots in case anyone is curious is here http://linux-fan-alfs.blogspot.com/2008/03/system-backups.html Disk size has increased and disk cost has decreased to the point that I have much more available disk space than I need (it's hard to find a tiny 20GB disk any more.) Actually I have 4 various sized disks including 2 500GB drives and a few old spare drives lying aroung. Each one of the disks ha one partition that is the logical type that is reported by fdisk as f W95 Ext'd (LBA). The logical partition can contain partitions 5-15. More than one of the disks has a partition dedicated to back ups. I'm lazy and don't regularly delete old copies. Most of the systems in the scheme are bootable, so I automatically have numerous rescue systems. I also have grub boot cd and lfs livecd. I've learned to expect that I'll occasionally (or regularly as the case may be) break something. Many times, one of the rescue systems has been called upon to save the day, even if only for 1 file. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/8/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote:
shouldn't that be
if (( ${v[0]} 2 )) (( ${v[1]} 4 ))
or maybe (( v[0] == 2 )) (( v[1] 4 ))
... bash (( allowed me to omit $ and {} around variables/arrays ))
But in the target lfs-6.6, glibc 2.4 is true, so the test isn't even needed.
That's the funny thing. Why did they look at the host to see what will
be on the target in this stage in a cross compile situation, when they
have no way of knowing what it will be? It seems like there should be
one of those --switches allowing the user to specify a thing like
this.
Sorry for picking nits. It looks good and solves a problem I had due to
one of my deviations.
You are welcome to pick all the nits you want. I don't care.
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Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/8/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote:
so the whole thing can be reduced to:
v=($(ls /lib/libc-*.so | sed 's/[.-]/ /g'))
[ (( ${v[1]} 2 )) (( ${v[2]} 4 )) ]
sed -i '/k prot/agcc_cv_libc_provides_ssp=yes' ../gcc-4.5.0/gcc/configure
[ $(ls /lib/libc-*.so \
| sed 's/[.-]/ /g' \
| awk '{print ($23 $34) ? foo : bar}') == foo ]
sed -i '/k prot/agcc_cv_libc_provides_ssp=yes' ../gcc-4.5.0/gcc/configure
Please pardon me being silly.
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Re: live and learn
I haven't read where piper.guy confirmed that bash is installed or that if bash is not installed, that changing the link to point to bash won't help. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
# Hack to solve glibc __stack_chk_guard cross compile ( 2.4 :)
# this schpeel in LFS-6.6 ch5 gcc-pass1 and ch5 gcc-pass2 after unpack:
glibc=$(ls /lib/libc-*.so)
read j1 v[0] v[1] v[2] j2 ${glibc//[-.]/ }
if (( v[0] 2 )) || (( v[1] 4 )) [ -f gcc/configure ]; then
# kick it
sed -i -e '/# Test for stack protector support in target C library/ {
a\
gcc_cv_libc_provides_ssp=yes
} ' gcc/configure
fi
# Result: nscd with stack-smashing protector + no error in ch6 glibc
# Notes:
# If should probably have (( v[0] 3 )) (( v[1] 4 )),
# but could do the sed unconditionally for target LFS-6.6.
# Don't know if needed in ch5 gcc-pass1 and/or ch5 gcc-pass2.
# Testing on host lfs-6.2/linux-2.6.22.18,
# Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen it.
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Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/4/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: So the problem was the Chapter 5 gcc? I'm not sure that follows. Seems to. Intending to attempt to duplicate __stack_chk_guard error in chapter 6 while building lfs-6.6 from lfs-6.1.1 ... The theory being that the host gcc/glibc ideal gets passed to the toolchain build and then passed to the finished build as if it were an olympic torch. I'm using the exemplary jhalfs. lfs-6.2 original host (hostname lfs) lfs-6.1.1 target partition /dev/sdb8 (hostname lfs-1) lfs-6.6 target partition /dev/sdb9 Stage 1 - build lfs-6.1.1 - m...@lfs:~/jhalfs-0.2$ su # stay in root for this version mount /dev/sdb8 /mnt/lfs ./jhalfs -L 6.1.1 cd /mnt/lfs/jhalfs make ... it goes on for hours and then is done. ... chroot into it and build a requisite kernel. ... shutdown and boot to it (entertaining grub in the process). Stage 2 - build lfs-6-6 --- m...@lfs-1:~/jhalfs-2.3.2$ su mount /dev/sdb9 /mnt/lfs exit # to regular user for this version make select the options and approve cd /mnt/lfs/jhalfs make BREAKPOINT=038-gcc-pass2 ... while that is building, I see in gcc-build/config.log Reading specs from ... Configured with: ... --disable-libssp ... I decide to break out of it, and try something ... This diff in commands = --- /mnt/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands/chapter05/038-gcc-pass2.orig +++ /mnt/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands/chapter05/038-gcc-pass2 @@ -43,7 +43,8 @@ --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix \ --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-languages=c,c++ \ --disable-libstdcxx-pch --disable-multilib \ ---disable-bootstrap +--disable-bootstrap \ +--enable-libssp make make install ln -vs gcc /tools/bin/cc = ... remove gcc-4.4.3 and gcc-build dirs ... restart ... make BREAKPOINT=038-gcc-pass2 ... libssp is produced in tools/lib ... continue building make I imagine this will be ok. Fun! http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/W2_o6_oWA2JilLZdPJT19A?feat=directlink -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/4/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: So the problem was the Chapter 5 gcc? I'm not sure that follows. Seems to. ... I decide to break out of it, and try something ... This diff in commands = --- /mnt/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands/chapter05/038-gcc-pass2.orig +++ /mnt/lfs/jhalfs/lfs-commands/chapter05/038-gcc-pass2 @@ -43,7 +43,8 @@ --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix \ --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-languages=c,c++ \ --disable-libstdcxx-pch --disable-multilib \ ---disable-bootstrap +--disable-bootstrap \ +--enable-libssp make make install ln -vs gcc /tools/bin/cc = I imagine this will be ok. Fun! No, not ok. /sources/glibc-build/nscd/connections.o: In function `main_loop_epoll': /sources/glibc-2.11.1/nscd/connections.c:2005: undefined reference to `__stack_chk_guard' /sources/glibc-build/nscd/connections.o:/sources/glibc-2.11.1/nscd/connections.c:1795: more undefined references to `__stack_chk_guard' follow collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [/sources/glibc-build/nscd/nscd] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.11.1/nscd' make[2]: *** [nscd/others] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-2.11.1' make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/sources/glibc-build' I guess Gnu are smarter than I. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: lfs-6.6 booting on my vmware!, but allays checking consistence of sda1
On 6/2/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: system, /etc/sysconfig/clock had UTC=1. As a consequence, timestamps were in the past. Or would that be in the future. My timezone is America/New_York in /etc/localtime. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Being a trailer
On 6/2/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: To be a proper trailer you need to have a system with ONLY the minimum requirements for the book. Otherwise you aren't proving building will work with only those. I don't think you will find any volunteers to perform the intricate and time-consuming labor. This is partly because the releases move forward fast enough to discourage volunteers. I loaded up a LFS-6.2 system (love rsync) and it exceeds minimum requirements for 6.6 except for the kernel. It does not meet requirements for DEV. While configuring a kernel, just for fun, I saw this: CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE: x x Enabling this option will pass -Os instead of -O2 to gcc x resulting in a smaller kernel. x x WARNING: some versions of gcc may generate incorrect code with this x option. If problems are observed, a gcc upgrade may be needed. x x If unsure, say N. x and that made me wonder. We may never know for sure exactly what caused the original problem undefined reference to __stack_chk_guard which seems to surface from time to time. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/2/10, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Paul Rogers wrote: I reported it doesn't work with 6.1, that's as close as I had. And the response I got was, paraphrasing, use 6.3, it's known to work. There seemed to be a complete lack of recognition of it being a problem with the book. Frankly, the resistance I experienced getting general recognition the problem should be taken seriously hasn't engendered much desire to volunteer. I don't care for this sort of welcome. It was recognized that there might be a problem with the book. As of this writing, it has not been proven that there is a problem with the book To prove that, just needs for someone to make the attempt to build from 6.1 to 6.6 by hand to elimiate the possibilty of a script introducing some peculiar effect. But, due to debate, that point has become obsolete since the book has been obligingly updated. I haven't read where anyone claims that the book is infallible. What has been claimed is that if you follow the book, then you'll get help, and if you depart then the amount of help you'll get is inversely related to the amount of departure. That's the way it works. I thought the purpose of a support mailing list was to help users solve THEIR problems. My mistake, I guess. Everybody is happy to help solving problems encountered while building a system according to the instructions in the book LFS-DEV is for discussing the contents of the book. Disagreements irritate everybody and should go private email and then the result can be summarised. At least that is what I thought. The LFS books are great and the support is great. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/2/10, Danny Engelbarts d.engelba...@gmail.com wrote: ... a 6.3 system is required than the book should state 6.3 until proven otherwise. That is just exactly what the DEV book now requires. Unfortunately, now we don't get to find out exactly why the original problem undefined reference to __stack_chk_guard surfaces from time to time. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/2/10, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: The version of glibc within chroot certainly should support ssp but the two reports we have didn't seem to find it automatically. Others cannot duplicate the problem. If we had consistent errors on most builds, we could fix it. Could there be slight variances in how one enters chroot that could possibly affect this? I would't expect that to be likely. Once in chroot, gcc and glibc have already been built (twice for gcc). How could the conditions on the host system be still affecting the outcome? Why only 2 reports in all this time? Anyway, you all are doing a great job! -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Blfs X-Window (lfs scratch 6.3)
On 6/1/10, David Expósito david.sa...@gmail.com wrote: /usr/lib/libXfont.so: undefined reference to `ft_isdigit' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status In newer versions of Freetype2, the ft_isdigit macro has been removed. When building libXfont-1.2.8 in ch. 23.8 Xorg-Libraries you were supposed to do: sed -i 's/(ft_isdigit/(isdigit/' src/FreeType/fttools.c Maybe you can rebuild libXfont and then resume. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 6/1/10, Baho Utot baho-u...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Volunteers welcomed. I'll volunteer...I can mess up anything :) I am going to try it again as I am a gluten for punishment. From one punishment lubber 't another: Consider using the HSR that are now in LFS-DEV for your testing. The reason I say so, is that 6.6 is a done deal and not likely to change. I started checking for barnicles in linux-2.6.18 before I discoverd that the HSR accepted the upgrade. I Built LFS-6-6 up through ch6 Glibc-2.11.1 using jhalfs. It ended up building ch6 Glibc-2.11.1 without an error. The host system was a previously built LFS-6.3 system booted with a custom made linux-2.6.18.8 kernel. cat /etc/lfs-release 6.3 - jhalfs build cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.18.8 (r...@lfs) (gcc version 3.3.6) #1 So it wasn't strictly the kernel. Perhap the host linux-headers-2.6.22.5 were too new to fail. Or was Gcc the old bilge rat whut deserves the black spot? Perhaps I missed the boat entirely. It may be never to be known. The HSR that are now in LFS-DEV were updated and I wouldn't complain about that. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/31/10, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: You don't have any standing to 'expect' anything from us. You can suggest, but with your attitude, my reaction is to push back and say no, even if that's wrong. -- Bruce I support and congratulate Paul Roger's package management ability to clone and LFS system and swap out parts, and to make analyses. I suspect someday soon, someone will try making an LFS-6.3 system using linux-2.6.18.8 (instead of 2.6.22.5). Then, using that as a host, try to build LFS-6.6 to verify the minimum kernel requirement. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/31/10, x2...@lycos.com x2...@lycos.com wrote: Most of the posters with problems do seem to have, for whatever reason, strayed from the path of righteousness and not followed the book closely enough. Quoth the creator: Gerard: Read the book we wrote for our users. But, don’t be afraid to deviate from it. After all, that’s the whole point of the project: to make a system for yourself, not according to somebody else’s specifications. http://www.crazyengineers.com/gerard-beekmans-building-linux-from-scratch/ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/29/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: Since I cut and paste the book instructions into my build script template, albeit with ample instruction and organization for use in cloning the system too, I can provide them for the Stage 1 2 builds of gcc and glibc, if it would help to see EXACTLY what I have done. I have read all of a similar thread from March and April on this topic and found no instruction, other than to avoid pretty much. I do want to get around this impediment and continue using LFS. I closely examined you script and my eyes could not detect anything about the ch6-glibc that would cause any difference from pure cut and past to the command line. Something before that must have set up the conditions leading to the trouble. Everyone has been assuming that host system requirements (HSR) are all met, and (in ch6) the kernel virtual filesystems are properly mounted and you are running in chroot. I'll throw this at it: I could not build linux-2.6.18 with the newer gcc's. To build it, I installed gcc-3.3.6 in order to build it. I chose gcc-3.3.6 because of an article comparing gcc's which indicated that 3.3.6 had a history of stability. I used 2.6.18.8 for a long time because because the SATA_PROMISE maintainer remapped the ports on TX4 which fouled me up. But I haven't used 2.6.18 for over 6 months now. HSR say Linux Kernel-2.6.18 (having been compiled with GCC-3.0 or greater) ... true (y) _ The __stack_chk_guard which is only seen by grep in gcc, must have gotten built in at some earlier step or possibly bled in from the 2.6.18 kernel (i think) you said you built to begin the lfs build. I built lfs running from the livecd which has kernel 2.6.22.5. For speed (unless little memory), at the boot prompt, boot:linux toram Once at the # (root) prompt, set a password for root. # passwd root # su - jhalfs $ echo Xft.dpi: 96 .Xresources $ startxfce4 ... might need to tweak /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... You can begin at the beginning and even use your scripts. If it still fails, your hardware or you scripts must have anomalies. Once it's build, you could even build linux-2.6.18.8 (using gcc 3.3.6), if desired. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/29/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: No fun. 1.4GHz P-3, 512MB. Besides, as I wrote, I really want to have a clean migration path. Maybe 6.1 to 6.6 is too far a jump, but it matched the HSR with the exception of kernel version. Besides I rather think the LiveCD starts the NIC/network, mine doesn't and I really don't want that. Notes say: To load the CD contents to RAM with the toram option, the minimum required amount of RAM is 512 MB. If you have less than 768 MB of RAM, add swap when the CD boot finishes -- a good idea anyway. Alternatively, it is possible to boot the livecd from disk. The short version is under BOOTING FROM ISO IMAGE in http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/documentation.html I made a script to remember how http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg7ck9hb_135djs6xvrn I'm sure you know that jhalfs provides an alternative to your script. I understand concern for clean migration path and NIC/network. Just thinking out loud ... if jhalfs can build it using the host system, then the scripts must have a fault ... but if the scripts can build it using the livecd, then the host system must have a fault. Is it the host kernel config, the host glibc, the host gcc, the scripts, or what? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/28/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: gcc package for that __stack_chk_guard variable, assuming it was defined there. It's not. Could someone please grep their include directory and let me know where it is defined? I haven't found it on my system. grep -r -c _stack_chk_guard /usr/include (nothing) grep -r _stack_chk_guard /sources/linux-2.6.33.1 (nothing) -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/28/10, Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com wrote: Good advice. I'd actually recommend 'make oldconfig' and then make notes on *everything* that might be questionable, research, then set or not in menuconfig, but that's just a variation - the important thing is not to try to jump through too many different kernel versions in one go. The only problem with 'make oldconfig' is that there will be a million questions that mortals cannot *possibly* know how to answer. However, about 90% of them will have a default response that you can take by pressing ENTER if you want to guess that must be it. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to Improve the LFS book
On 5/27/10, JimD. wrote: On this topic, I too had a notion that what I call Lab Notes would have been an improvement and perhaps call users attention to important procedures. I like that. In the BLFS book, each package has user notes that link to a wiki page if it exists. Those are not even noticed unless the reader suspects that some need to know might be there. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS-6.6, Stage2, glibc, nscd.c:442
On 5/27/10, Paul Rogers paulgrog...@fastmail.fm wrote: [Ken Moffat] getting from a .config that worked in 2.6.18 to one that works in 2.6.32. Particularly, libata [ most ide drives now use libata and therefore /dev/sdXn instead of hdXn ]. [Paul Rogers] Yes, I've seen that in some of the other distros I've gotten from LXF. Using SCSI emulation for IDE drives just seems WRONG somehow. I'm a follower of Einstein's dictum, As simple as possible, but no simpler. The systems I'm building on/for (P3's) all use PATA drives, and I was hoping to deal with SATA later in a POD-3.2 version. I maintain some pure IDE drives as hdXn by using the config parameters: CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y CONFIG_IDE=y in addition to: CONFIG_ATA=y CONFIG_SATA_SIL24=y CONFIG_SATA_PROMISE=y for the SATAS as sdXn, providing the peaceful coexistence of both worlds. This old heap of harware just _won't_ stop working! I got from 2.6.18 to 2.6.32, over time, a few steps at a time and the technique was to: copy last good config to kernel souces .config make menuconfig change one thing and change it back (unless really changing something) make menuconfig pulls the relevant new vs. deprecated pieces into line. go through the whole menus with an eye on reality checking. If I want to boot with my IDE /dev/hdXY's plugged in (always at the fixed cable positions), I can, and I can access the /dev/sdXY's too, or visa versa. I still think 2.6.18 is a good kernel, but there was a clean break in compatibility with newer software somewhere around 2.6.22. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: chapter 6.16: configure: error: in `/sources/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgcc':, ... C preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
On 5/26/10, Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz wrote: I can't really see how things can be improved (short of blinking red text on *every* page), but it does seem like half the problems we deal with are from people not following it. Are people not even reading that entire General Compilation Instructions page, and skipping straight to the packages? The important note #1 in ch 5.3 is clear. However, General Compilation Instructions never specifies the flow of events expected to follow: 1 - make sure $LFS is set to the target directory (export LFS=/mnt/lfs) 2 - change directory to $LFS/sources 3 - unpack the package tarball 4 - change directory to the unpacked directory created by tar 5 - follow package build and install instructions 6 - change directory to $LFS/sources 7 - remove the unpacked directory created by tar At least I can't remember where that is. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: chapter 6.16: configure: error: in `/sources/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgcc':, ... C preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check
On 5/25/10, mhenriqu...@terra.cl wrote: just to bother, the book mention something about that somewhere?, do I miss something... Ch 5.3. General Compilation Instructions has an *Important* note to delete the unpacked-source and build directories after installing unless otherwise specified. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Glibc fails to make. (error 2)
On 5/20/10, Kyle Brennan kyle_b...@live.com wrote: though. I did work in the sources directory. I got to GLibC and it ran for about 45 minutes and then it threw this error at me: make: *** [all] Error 2 It just came out of the /mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-2.11.1 directory. which Wouldn't it be out of /mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-build? The procedure (lfs 6.6 and LFS=/mnt/lfs) LFS=/mnt/lfs cd $LFS/sources # If pre-existing glibc-build, rm -r glibc-build # If pre-existing glibc-2.11.1, rm -r glibc-2.11.1 tar -xf glibc-2.11.1.tar.bz2 cd glibc-2.11.1 # Copy/Paste each applicable grey command block mkdir -v ../glibc-build cd ../glibc-build ... and so on, right? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: kdebaseworkspace-4.4.2-help required
On 4/14/10, lux-integ lux-in...@btconnect.com wrote:
On Tuesday 13 April 2010 07:53:42 pm Trent Shea wrote:
Also,
/opt/kde/share/apps/cmake/modules/FindX11.cmake which gets installed by
kdelibs - not really sure if both files get used...
all to no avail.
I do not know if the 'name' used is a problem or otherwise
root [ /usr/X11R7.5/lib/pkgconfig ]# cat xi.pc
prefix=/usr/X11R7.5
exec_prefix=${prefix}
libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
includedir=${prefix}/include
Name: Xi
Description: X Input Extension Library
Version: 1.3
Requires: inputproto
Requires.private: x11 xext
Cflags: -I${includedir}
Libs: -L${libdir} -lXi
NOTE: /usr/X11R7.5
D) The output from cmake shows that libXi is found :-
### spew from cmake
-- Found automoc4: /opt/kde-4.4.2/bin/automoc4
-- Strigi API needs 'signed char'
-- Found Strigi: /opt/kde-4.4.2/lib/libstreams.so
-- found qimageblitz, version 4.0.0
-- Found QImageBlitz: /opt/kde-4.4.2/include/qimageblitz
-- Found ZLIB: /usr/lib64/libz.so
-- checking for module 'libXi=1.2.0'
-- package 'libXi=1.2.0' not found
-- Found libXi: /usr/X11R7.5/lib64/libXi.so
-- WARNING: you are using the obsolete 'PKGCONFIG' macro use FindPkgConfig
-- Found GLIB2: /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so
-- found fontconfig, version 2.7.3
-- Found Fontconfig: /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so
-- found libggadget-1.0, version 0.11.2
-- found libggadget-qt-1.0, version 0.11.2
-- Found Googlegadgets: ggadget-qt-1.0;ggadget-1.0;QtGui;QtCore
-- checking for modules 'qzion=0.4.0;qedje=0.4.0'
-- found qzion, version 0.4.0
-- found qedje, version 0.4.0
-- Found QEdje: /opt/kde-4.4.2/lib/libqedje.so;/opt/kde-4.4.2/lib/libqzion.so
NOTE: Found libXi: /usr/X11R7.5/lib64/libXi.so
-- Looking for _XiGetDevicePresenceNotifyEvent
-- Looking for _XiGetDevicePresenceNotifyEvent - not found
-- _XiGetDevicePresenceNotifyEvent is not found, libXi version 1.2.0 or later
is required to keep layouts with keyboard hotplugging
You seem to have multiplicities which are confusing only the Xi piece.
X11R7.5 - first order of possible kde Xi confusion?
lib64 - second order of possible kde Xi confusion?
X11R6 - is a there a link pointing wrong and only affect kde/Xi?
FindX11.cmake - predicting 2 or 3 in find / -xdev -iname FindX11.cmake
1=in /usr/share installed by cmake?
2=in /opt/kde installed by kdelibs
3=in ~ installed by ?
The permutations permit kde to easily do a bug and not find the right thing.
Just because you intend to override what kde does, does not mean that it is
not ignoring you and doing what it wants to anyway?
[lousy grammar]
Step back for a minute examine libXi.so closely
Where is it really?
Is there more than 1?
Is there any link that permits kde to look the other way?
Was (I'm sure not) libXi installed incorrectly?
How many possible ways to find it? Links, envars, etc?
There isn't a verbose option on cmake that would allow you to inspect
the detail of how kde is managing to not find it is there?
ln -sfv $XORG_PREFIX/lib/libXi.so /usr/lib
Thanks for the advice, ( It compiles to 100%) with a symbolic link of libXi.so
to /usr/lib
That sounds wrong to me, if it is really in /usr/X11R7.5/lib64/libXi.so
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Re: kdebaseworkspace-4.4.2-help required
On 4/12/10, lux-integ lux-in...@btconnect.com wrote:
could this be related and does anyone have any ideas for swift resolution
I don't have libxklavier and it built.
Going off topic:
I don't like the giant balloon tooltips over the panel.
I like it better with this patch for kdelibs even though it also
affects digital clock:
# at least make hover 3 seconds before giant balloon tooltip pops up.
patch -p1 EOF
--- kdelibs-4.4.2/plasma/tooltipmanager.cpp.orig
+++ kdelibs-4.4.2/plasma/tooltipmanager.cpp
@@ -157,9 +157,9 @@
if (d-isShown) {
// small delay to prevent unnecessary showing when the mouse
is moving quickly across items
// which can be too much for less powerful CPUs to keep up with
-d-showTimer-start(200);
+d-showTimer-start(1800);
} else {
-d-showTimer-start(700);
+d-showTimer-start(1800);
}
}
EOF
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Re: Problems with HAL
On 3/25/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: HAL is not part of LFS, you should direct questions about things in BLFS to blfs-supp...@linuxfromscratch.org I configure HAL with --disable-console-kit \ --disable-policy-kit Otherwise new hal expects them and if they are to be installed, it leads to many dependencies that I am not interested in. Useable documentation for these things might exist, though they are gibberish to me. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: grub2: error: fiel not found
On 3/24/10, Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com wrote: I've finally got round to trying to install grub2 on one of my boxes. I messed with grub2 a little. I tried the 'kernel /core.img' method to get to grub2 from legacy. 'set' shows the settings somewhat like bash. 'set pager=1' ... I think pages output instead of scrolling so you cannot read. 'insmod help' ... maybe Getting the correct 'set root=' very important. insmod ext2 .. of course I had success from grub legacy to grub2 with something like: kernel /core.img boot set root= ... correctly (there may have been another 'set' relevant to path) insmod ext2 insmod configfile (forgot exact) ... configfile (hd0,15)/.../grub.cfg I kept hammering and eventually pulled up the grub2 menu. Sorry, I don't remember exact formulas. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: grub2: error: fiel not found
On 3/25/10, Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. From somewhere, the prefix is set to (hd0,15)/boot/grub. I've no idea where this is set, and trying to set it at the start of grub.cfg didn't work. So, I've created that path for it - mkdir /boot/boot ln -s ../grub /boot/boot/grub Yep. I always had to do that when /boot was on a separate partition. My new habit is making /boot a regular directory so I would stop being confused about when grub is in /boot or in /. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Which chipset for USB?
On 3/23/10, Simon Geard delga...@ihug.co.nz wrote: On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 11:39 -0700, brown wrap wrote: I tried that. NO inputs work. Not USB or PS/2 mouse and old XT keyboard. Ok, that's something. If no input devices work, that might point to options under HID Devices not being enabled (HID = Human Interface Device). I have the following enabled (as modules): Device Drivers - HID Devices Device Drivers - HID Devices - Generic HID support Device Drivers - HID Devices - USB Human Interface Device (full HID) support Just some homework. Wierd messages in the log. Are config settings dubious? IRQ problem? -- brown pastebin sys.log has http://pastebin.com/EGZYEdMe Mar 16 22:46:27 guajome-dome kernel: [9.460024] ehci_hcd :00:04.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ. -- brown pastebin config has http://pastebin.com/TVa6pvbx CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS=y CONFIG_GENERIC_HARDIRQS_NO__DO_IRQ=y CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y CONFIG_GENERIC_PENDING_IRQ=y CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y CONFIG_SPARSE_IRQ=y CONFIG_NUMA_IRQ_DESC=y CONFIG_X86_REROUTE_FOR_BROKEN_BOOT_IRQS=y # CONFIG_MEMORY_HOTPLUG is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=y CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU=y # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_PCIE is not set CONFIG_HT_IRQ=y CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI=y # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_FAKE is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_ACPI is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_CPCI is not set # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI_SHPC is not set CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_SHARE_IRQ=y CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DETECT_IRQ=y CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y CONFIG_TRACE_IRQFLAGS_SUPPORT=y # CONFIG_DEBUG_SHIRQ is not set # CONFIG_IRQSOFF_TRACER is not set # CONFIG_SECURITY_ROOTPLUG is not set CONFIG_HID_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_HID=y # CONFIG_HIDRAW is not set CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_HID_PID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y # Special HID drivers CONFIG_HID_A4TECH=y CONFIG_HID_APPLE=y CONFIG_HID_BELKIN=y CONFIG_HID_CHERRY=y CONFIG_HID_CHICONY=y CONFIG_HID_CYPRESS=y CONFIG_HID_DRAGONRISE=y CONFIG_HID_EZKEY=y CONFIG_HID_KYE=y CONFIG_HID_GYRATION=y CONFIG_HID_TWINHAN=y CONFIG_HID_KENSINGTON=y CONFIG_HID_LOGITECH=y CONFIG_HID_MICROSOFT=y CONFIG_HID_MONTEREY=y CONFIG_HID_NTRIG=y CONFIG_HID_PANTHERLORD=y CONFIG_HID_PETALYNX=y CONFIG_HID_SAMSUNG=y CONFIG_HID_SONY=y CONFIG_HID_SUNPLUS=y CONFIG_HID_GREENASIA=y CONFIG_HID_SMARTJOYPLUS=y CONFIG_HID_TOPSEED=y CONFIG_HID_THRUSTMASTER=y CONFIG_HID_ZEROPLUS=y CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_DETECT_IRQ Help text Say Y here if you want the kernel to try to guess which IRQ to use for your serial port. This is considered unsafe; it is far better to configure the IRQ in a boot script using the setserial command. If unsure, say N. CONFIG_HOTPLUG Help text Say Y here if you want to plug devices into your computer while the system is running, and be able to use them quickly. In many cases, the devices can likewise be unplugged at any time too. One well-known example of this is PCMCIA- or PC-cards, credit-card size devices such as network cards, modems, or hard drives which are plugged into slots found on all modern laptop computers. Another example, used on modern desktops as well as laptops, is USB. -- CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI Help text Say Y here if you have a motherboard with a PCI Hotplug controller. This allows you to add and remove PCI cards while the machine is powered up and running. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called pci_hotplug. When in doubt, say N. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Which chipset for USB?
On 3/23/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: -- brown pastebin sys.log has http://pastebin.com/EGZYEdMe Mar 16 22:46:27 guajome-dome kernel: [9.460024] ehci_hcd :00:04.1: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probably using the wrong IRQ. Someone said boot parameter irqpoll is the key. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81153highlight=noapic+usb -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Which chipset for USB?
On 3/21/10, brown wrap gra...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd be happy to get any keyboard and mouse to work. I wonder is your usb problem just the keyboard and the mouse? In my config # CONFIG_KEYBOARD_XTKBD is not set # CONFIG_MOUSE_SERIAL is not set I always thought XTKBD was obsoleted long ago. To me, serial refers to 9-pin connector used long ago. -When- does the keyboard start to not work? A. It works before grub only B. It works during grub but not after C. It works at a console login but not in X-windows Does computer have a PS/2 style for a keyboard? Do you have a keyboard with the PS/2 style plug? Does it work differently than as a usb keyboard? What kind of keyboard is it? In short, should the focus be on getting the keyboard/mose to work rather than on USB ? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Which chipset for USB?
On 3/22/10, linux fan linuxscra...@gmail.com wrote: -When- does the keyboard start to not work? If it works at a console login but not in X-windows, that happened to me, and I reconfigured xorg-server to fix the scenario where dbus and hal were installed, but I was not running them, and thus the xorg-server obligingly disabled the keyboard and mouse: # xorg-server config --disable-config-dbus \ --disable-config-hal \ Then again, it could be a problem in xorg.conf. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Which chipset for USB?
On 3/22/10, brown wrap gra...@yahoo.com wrote: So now I went back to building a clean kernel that will at least boot again. Possibly try rm .config make defconfig ARCH=x86_64 Then make menuconfig and select things you know that you will need built into the kernel. Try to avoid making any alterations to any input devices or usb until you know the defaults don't work. I refer to README in the kernel source tree. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Which chipset for USB?
On 3/22/10, brown wrap gra...@yahoo.com wrote: Today I booted up the LFS 6.3 DVD and its works as well. I found its .config and tried to use it to build a kernal: make mrproper Copied it to .config make oldconfig make make modules_install and then copied everything to its place in the /boot directory. I had previuously done the same thing with the CentOS .config. Both end up in a 'panic'. In order to try that method, After you do the make oldconfig, you need to do make menuconfig and select to build into the kernel Y the few things that are totally necessary at boot time. This would include at the very least ext2 ext3 hard drive (I saw CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y in your pastebin) The rule is that if the kernel must have it at boot time in order to access the hard drive and filesystem (before the filesystem has been accessed), then it must be built into the kernel or made available via initrd. Centos uses initrd, so it can have those essential things as modules, but if not using initrd, if those essential things are modules, it will panic. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: write error with new version of tar
On 3/19/10, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I wonder if head is closing the input pipe when it has read all it needs, and that's causing the error. I can't reproduce that problem with my host system, however. It is tar-1.23 and not head head --version head (GNU coreutils) 8.4 tar -xf tar-1.23.tar.bz2 cd tar-1.23 ./configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/bin --libexecdir=/usr/sbin make src/tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.23 src/tar -tf ../tar-1.23.tar.bz2 | head -1 tar-1.23/ src/tar: write error tar --version tar (GNU tar) 1.22 tar -tf ../tar-1.23.tar.bz2 | head -1 tar: Record size = 8 blocks tar-1.23/ -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: my kernel won't recognize ide drives
On 3/18/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On 18/03/10 19:24, Scott Kopel wrote: So the question is what kernel configuration changes do I have to make to get the kernel to recognize my ide drives? I have old system with IDE drives and addon cards for sata dirves. The systems sees tht IDE drives as hd and the SATA drives as sd. grep ^[^#].*IDE\|^[^#].*ATA /boot/config-$(uname -r) Shows these are in my config: CONFIG_HAVE_IDE=y CONFIG_IDE=y CONFIG_IDE_XFER_MODE=y CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS=y CONFIG_IDE_ATAPI=y CONFIG_IDE_GD=y CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD_VERBOSE_ERRORS=y CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_SFF=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y CONFIG_ATA=y CONFIG_ATA_VERBOSE_ERROR=y CONFIG_ATA_ACPI=y CONFIG_SATA_PMP=y CONFIG_SATA_SIL24=y CONFIG_ATA_SFF=y CONFIG_SATA_PROMISE=y -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: partition sizes
On 2/16/10, Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com wrote: I tend to use 5GB or less for a desktop system. If you plan to build *all* of gnome, or *all* of kde, that probably isn't enough space, but in my case I'd probably put /boot (100MB is big), swap if any, and 2 or 3 versions of '/' on the 20GB drive. I did manage to build KDE4 on a 5GB partition, while having the sources (build) directory hosted on a separate partition. I typically think about 12GB for the root partition with no separate partitions for home or usr leaves enough space for me. It depends on how much space will be needed for applications and files that will accumulate. For /boot, I just use a /boot directory instead of a separate partition (which is my choice) and it works fine. I like to create a logical partition in which 15 partitions may exist. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Bash prompt in X-Windows
On 2/23/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: Do you source /etc/profile in ~/.bashrc? Not the perfect answer, but it led to the answer. Actually, /etc/bashrc should be sourced in ~/.bashrc and it was, but I had missed creating /etc/bashrc in The Bash Shell Startup Files, and /etc/bashrc: # Provides prompt for non-login shells, specifically shells started # in the X environment. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Setclock - no link - bootscripts
Is it just me, or why does bootscripts no longer create setclock link /etc/rc.d/rcsysinit.d/S25setclock ? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Setclock - no link - bootscripts
On 2/23/10, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote: linux fan wrote: Is it just me, or why does bootscripts no longer create setclock link /etc/rc.d/rcsysinit.d/S25setclock ? It was removed about nine months ago because it is set by udev. ... supposed to be set by udev ... But why, on my new LFS-6.5 system, does the system time does not get set to hwclock time by the udev rule that is clearly there? The bios/hwclock is set to local time and I have UTC=0 in /etc/sysconfig/clock. If I make the link the system clock gets set correctly. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: BLFS-6.4RC1 or any
On 2/17/10, Randy McMurchy ra...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote: If the community's expectations are that we have the most current release of every package in the most recent BLFS book, then the expectations are too high and are unreasonable. I agree. I think the most important thing is that following step by step in the books should achieve a well functioning system. Even if some distro has far more current software, the lfs/blfs system is by far better. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: SATA support in Linux kernel's menuconfig
On 2/8/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/02/10 15:04, Ken Moffat wrote: Indeed. I was wrong. They do work with libata. They were older machines that were working fine so I avoided the headache of altering their kernel configs. My first couple of attempts at getting libata to work ended with kernel panics. Not because of the kernel config, but because I forgot to change the grub boot line to /dev/sda (DOH!). So yeah, libata works fine. Sorry for the noise. Libata works better with udev. I don't need custom udev rules for each machine, the default udev rules creates the cdrom symlink pointing at /dev/sr0 which is owned by group cdrom. I have both and udev works ok with everything. CONFIG_IDE=y CONFIG_ATA=y This is an old system that has IDE cdroms/dvds and an IDE disk which work fine as hdx. It also has SATA controller cards with some disks that work fine as sdx. The sata controllers were selected as CONFIG_SATA_SIL24=y CONFIG_SATA_PROMISE=y -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Step 6.7. Linux-2.6.30.2 API Headers [Error]
On 1/27/10, Andrew Benton b3n...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/01/10 19:13, Justin P. Mattock wrote: does your home directory have the proper permissions? i.g. chown name:name /home/name In LFS we compile in $LFS/sources which should have been chown lfs when you created the user lfs I tested unpacking in a direcory in which I did not have write permission and got different errors: tar: linux-2.6.30.2: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied Plus about one million ... Cannot open: No such file or directory ... messages There was no complaint about executing bzip2 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Step 6.7. Linux-2.6.30.2 API Headers [Error]
On 1/27/10, Justin P. Mattock justinmatt...@gmail.com wrote: Oops.. I didn't really follow the book step by step. The best results are by following the book instructions. Especially in chapter 6 those first steps must be done correctly: Set $LFS correctly Preparing Virtual Kernel File Systems Entering the Chroot Environment -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel
On 1/24/10, Rambabu Dasari babu4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am trying to build Linux from Scratch(LFS), while booting the kernel throughing the following error. [4.586704] Warning: unable to open an initial console. [4.592188] Failed to execute /init 6.2.1. Creating Initial Device Nodes, is supposed to have created null and console. If these are not present on the filesystem at boot time, it will panic the kernel. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: 70-persistent-net.rules not created
On 1/12/10, jmsc...@setex.ipcallback.com jmsc...@setex.ipcallback.com wrote:
so, in the name of progress, i like to solict advice on what to do next,
LFS-6.4 and earlier had:
for NIC in /sys/class/net/* ; do
INTERFACE=${NIC##*/} udevadm test --action=add --subsystem=net $NIC
done
I wonder why subsystem was later removed.
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Re: 70-persistent-net.rules not created
On 1/12/10, jmsc...@setex.ipcallback.com jmsc...@setex.ipcallback.com wrote:
not clear that adding --subsystem would force INTERFACE to be exported to
Hmm,
Output of ls -d /sys/class/net/*
/sys/class/net/eth0 /sys/class/net/lo
Output of ls -dl /sys/class/net/*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2010-01-12 03:44 /sys/class/net/eth0 -
../../devices/pci:00/:00:09.0/net/eth0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2010-01-12 03:44 /sys/class/net/lo -
../../devices/virtual/net/lo
I made a quick script and named it fubar:
for NIC in /sys/class/net/* ; do
echo INTERFACE=${NIC##*/} udevadm test --action=add $NIC
done
Here is the output of 'sh fubar'
INTERFACE=eth0 udevadm test --action=add /sys/class/net/eth0
INTERFACE=lo udevadm test --action=add /sys/class/net/lo
I remove the rule in my /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
pertaining to eth0 (the only rule in the file).
I execute the command line:
INTERFACE=eth0 udevadm test --action=add /sys/class/net/eth0
And I get the exact same rule put back in and I did see this output
which is consistent with the ls -dl
import_uevent_var: import into environment: 'INTERFACE=eth0'
import_uevent_var: import into environment: 'IFINDEX=2'
udevadm_test: looking at device
'/devices/pci:00/:00:09.0/net/eth0' from subsystem 'net'
Just experimenting ...
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Re: 70-persistent-net.rules not created
On 1/12/10, linux fan wrote: Just experimenting ... It almost seems like export/import is fouled up. The following block should print: bar .. foo= echo 'echo $foo' fubar chmod 755 fubar foo=bar ./fubar echo .$foo. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Stuck at 5.7.1
On 1/9/10, Abhinav Chaturvedi wrote: So I guess I am looking for someone to tell me - perhaps reassure me - that I could build my own shareable (on a disk) distro that could compete (outperform?) standard linux distros. I understand I would need to do other stuff - like arrange for an installer. But if I could know now from people who know better that its possible, then it will would help me persist. My reason for building LFS is to have a system that is built the way I want it. There is a Live-CD and there is a jhalfs tool for automating the build. They do not come close to solving all the difficulties of creating a distro. However, they are a beginning, and they prove that there are possibilities. I think it is a matter of interest and persistence. In this interview http://www.crazyengineers.com/gerard-beekmans-building-linux-from-scratch/ Gerard Beekmans said: Once you finished building an LFS system, it’s fully functional and there’s nothing inferior about it. There are countless number of LFS systems in mission critical production environments around the world. I tried a number of distributions and could not decide on any one. ... it became apparent that there would not be a single system that would be perfect for me. So I set out to create my own Linux system that would fully conform to my personal preferences. Read the book we wrote for our users. But, don’t be afraid to deviate from it. After all, that’s the whole point of the project: to make a system for yourself, not according to somebody else’s specifications. And in this interview http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/its-linux-and-i-did-it-my-way-an-interview-with-gerard-beekmans-19686 he said: Teaching has always been the primary goal of LFS. That will never change, lest LFS ceases to be what it is. But there also is no limit to teaching. As we all learn more about Linux system creation and package integration, that knowledge ought to be shared with the community. The LFS books are good places to store that information in a concise format. But I think we also cannot ignore the automated process requirements anymore. As a prime example, I (of course) use LFS at work. All our Linux servers are LFS based but there are times, I unfortunately am forced to (temporarily) use a different system. Always due to time constraints and ALFS isn't quite ready for this kind of deployment with the unique needs some workplaces have. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: How to script automate unTAR of packages
On 12/28/09, Mikie wrote: I have difficulty understanding *why* you want to do this mass extraction. It's that much less typing. For least typing, jhalfs lets you just type make and it does all untarring and building. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3 Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2 startfiles check fails -- no output
On 12/18/09, Pixel 73 wrote: trim the '' quoted text to just the part want to resond to == == grep '/lib.*/crt[1in].*succeeded' dummy.log is: attempt to open /bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../crt1.o succeeded attempt to open /bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../crti.o succeeded attempt to open /bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/../../../crtn.o succeeded Looks messed up. The first time I entered the configure command without the backslashes but all the commands in 'one line'. As I understand that should be no problem. OK I also checked the config.log in gcc-build. Unfortunately I can't find the config-command I used in the config.log. But there are errors: I did the first steps and I see that there is a config.status. show: head config.status configure:2284:17: error: gmp.h: No such file or directory Not good -- it should find it . In the gcc-build dir show: pwd df -ha whoami echo $PATH uname -a ls /var/log I'm just hunting for clues of: - Preparing Virtual Kernel File Systems - Entering the Chroot Environment - Being in the wrong place -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3 Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2 startfiles check fails -- no output
On 12/17/09, Pixel 73 wrote: But now I found out, that the startfiles show up when I am entering the following command: grep -o '/lib.*/crt[1in].*succeeded' dummy.log (Can you see above how I trimmed the '' quoted text to just the part I want to resond to?) Show us the output of this command which is the same grep without the -o grep '/lib.*/crt[1in].*succeeded' dummy.log Usually, in the sources directory, or maybe in gcc-build, there is a file config.log and at the top, it shows the configure command that was used. Are you sure you had the configure command exactly as in the book ? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3 Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2 startfiles check fails -- no output
On 12/17/09, linux fan wrote: On 12/17/09, Pixel 73 wrote: Are you sure you had the configure command exactly as in the book ? And I'm thinking ... I usually copy/paste each entire grey block and look at i before pressing enter. Notice that the backslashes \ at the end of some lines make the next be included so that the whole thing is interpreted as one big line. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [Newbie, LFS-6.5]: Problems with binutils-Pass2 compilation..
On 12/17/09, Abhinav Chaturvedi wrote: 6. Any deviations from the document? As far as I remember, I have stuck to the text. However, I did create a separate build folder for Pass 2 called binutils-build2. I assumed that the build folder created in Pass 1 needed to be separate from that in Pass 2. Always ... Before I build a package, I remove any previously extracted source for that package and any build-dir. I don't trust getting a clean build if the unpacked sources directory got used earlier. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: [Newbie, LFS-6.5]: Problems with binutils-Pass2 compilation..
On 12/17/09, Abhinav Chaturvedi wrote: Plus, when I gave the /sbin/swapon command, I got the message that my exisiting swap partition was busy swapon: /dev/yyy: swapon failed: Device or resource busy I think that just means it is already using that swap partition. You can see what swap it is using with: swapon -s -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3 Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2 startfiles check fails -- no output
On 12/16/09, stosss wrote: On 12/15/09, Pixel 73 wrote: Thank you very much for your help. What can I do, if I already did 'make install'? How can I uninstall again? In linux, attempted uninstall risks more harm than good unless you really know what might break which is usually not the case. At 6.12, GCC-4.1.2, the Readjusting the toolchain step has already been done, so only a super-geek has any chance to go to anything before that without starting at the beginning. Something has gone wrong and it is possible that the resulting system will be flawed. On the other hand, it is possible that you missed something in the GCC-4.1.2 step. As an exercise, it may be possible to remove the unpacked GCC-4.1.2 sources dir and the gcc-build dir and do that step again. This time paying close attention to the 'make and 'make -k check' and perhaps logging the output for close examination like: make 21 | tee my_log1 make -k check 21 | tee my_log2 If you get the same failure again, then it would be best to start over from the beginning which you might be advised to do anyway. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Clock Problems
On 12/14/09, Bruce Dubbs wrote: Try the fix Ken suggested (CONFIG_HZ_100) and make sure you turn off the SMP option. That has a lot of extra code you don't need. Is there a way to 'nice' the build so that it doesn't use all 100% cpu? Does the clock moving only a tick or two during the entire build break it? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re:
On 12/15/09, William Immendorf will.immend...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Pixel 73 pixe...@hotmail.com wrote: I am doing LFS 6.3. Everything went well until Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2. When Please don't use LFS 6.3, unless your host system is old enough to build it. I recommend LFS 6.5 from now on. I disagree with that. LFS 6.3 is stable and has the matching set BLFS 6.3 which can be built without problems. LFS 6.3 is also available on the latest live CD. For learning, I think it is valid to build it. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3 Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2 startfiles check fails -- no output
On 12/15/09, Pixel 73 wrote: How can I analyze which of my previous steps went wrong? Did the make command really complete without errors? I always try to keep a log containing all the output because the screen scrolls by, and later, I wish I could see the errors that went by so that I can search google to get clues. Something like this: make 21 | tee my_build_log Would it be a problem if I just delete all extracted and compiled folders of chapter 6 with rm -R and start again at the beginning of chapter 6? As long as you didn't do 'make install', it is possible to remove the directory extracted from the source tarball, then extract the source tarball again, and do the package over with a clean sources. I think that is the way to do it when you have reason to believe that you could have made a mistake in typing your commands. I think you would want to start over 6.12. GCC-4.1.2 ... not the beginning of chapter 6. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: LFS 6.3 Chapter 6.12, GCC-4.1.2 startfiles check fails -- no output
On 12/15/09, linux fan wrote: As long as you didn't do 'make install', it is possible to remove the directory extracted from the source tarball, then extract the source tarball again, and do the package over with a clean sources. I think I forgot ... with gcc, you also want to remove the gcc-build directory. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re:
On 12/15/09, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Pixel 73 wrote: I am using LFS LiveCD 6.3. So that should be no problem then, right? You can use any distro which can build the tools, which is any distro I know of. Ignore the peanut gallery. Yes, and you can use the LiveCD 6.3 and it works fine and then you can build BLFS 6.3 too. But if you build BLFS 6.3 with LFS 6.5 there are multiple problems due to GNU clamping down on older software 'taking liberties'. But anyway, FYI, this thread is suppressed on the web mailing list because it has no subject, or because it has an argument. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linux-2.6.30.9 build failure
On 12/3/09, Simon Geard wrote: Wow... if you *do* get a new LFS build running on that, I'd be curious to know how long it took... My first guess is 11 days or so. Calculating from: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~sbu MHz=100 one_sbu=5848 lfs_6_5_sbus=153 seconds=899422 time=10,9:50:22 -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: Linux-2.6.30.9 build failure
On 12/3/09, Mike McCarty wrote: You don't necessarily have to build on that machine. However, I realize that may be part of the challenge. Hmm, if LFS 6.5 cross compiles, could you build it on a fast machine for the slow machine and then put it on the slow machine with rsync or something? -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: linux-2.6.31.6 doesn't boot
On 11/29/09, Alberto Hernando wrote: ... The error is the same, VFS can't find a valid root system, please add a valid root option. I .. and /etc/fstab is as the book says. If /etc/fstab is as the book says (verbatim), it won't work. You must interpolate /dev/xxx /fff defaults1 1 replacing xxx and fff respectively. Your other post suggests that it would be: /dev/hda8/ext3 defaults1 1 The VFS can't find ... suggests that the boot loader (grub/lilo) done its job and the kernel was loading until it choked on the filesystem fstab told it, I think -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: linux-2.6.31.6 doesn't boot
On 11/29/09, linux fan wrote: The VFS can't find ... suggests that the boot loader (grub/lilo) done its job and the kernel was loading until it choked on the filesystem fstab told it, If the message is exactly: Kernel panic -not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) Then it is the root= parameter on the linux/kernel line that is wrong -- while the kernel is loading, it gets to the point where it wants to use that parameter, but it is bogus so there is nothing else to do but panic. I just tried it accidentally and it gave that message. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: build problem LFS 6.5
On 11/28/09, stosss wrote: I am only using the lfs 6.3 LiveCD (this is the newest and last lfs LiveCD released) so I will have a working environment to build lfs Unless I am mistaken, everything in ch6-8 is done within chroot. Then it is imperative to be certain that 6.2. Preparing Virtual Kernel File Systems 6.4. Entering the Chroot Environment was done correctly before doing anything else. All typing, scripts, etc, are meant to be whithin that chroot. If you get out, is is possible to get back in, but it is tricky. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: build problem LFS 6.5
On 11/28/09, Baho Utot wrote: make test | tee $CURRDIR/06.58.Check.log make install | tee $CURRDIR/06.58.Install.log Logging helps so much when things go wrong. As already mentioned Scripting an LFS build is *hard* 1. Use jhalfs. That is the most consistent way to do things and it keeps logs of everything you do. I have used jhalfs time and time again and it succeeds. You can watch the logs while it is building with tail -f. You can find error clues to search google often getting ideas. Most scripting hard codes specific version -- jhalfs is more reusable. Note: jhalfs-2.3.1 on the live cd can't handle everything about LFS-6.4 and later. jhalfs-2.3.2 or svn-trunk is needed for LFS-6.4 and later. Linux from scratch ALFS page tells how to download the latest version. I only suggest this due to amount of time spent and it failing. You can debrief what jhalfs did with its scripts in lfs-commands/chapterXX/* and maybe detect what went wrong in handmade script. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
Re: grub problem
On 11/25/09, su.sinnes wrote: is there anything i can do? We've all been down this road before ... whatever we do, grub doesn't seem to work ... You have gotten grub to load a kernel ... that is getting close. The key marked PrtScr SysRq can stop the display from scrolling while booting -- you have to be quick. / CTRL-Q resume scolling Can you get with pencil and paper the messages that happen just before the pan ic. Does kernel config include CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
