Re: [lfs-support] Boot problem

2013-08-19 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 07:23:25AM -0400, Richard wrote:
 
 I don't use the serial port often, but I'd like to have the option
 of using it.
 
 I'm sceptical that it is a hardware problem, since this problem
 doesn't show up with my other operating systems, which include
 LFS 6.2, PCLinux OS, Windows XP and Windows 98.
 
 Richard

 Welcome to the joys of kernel changes which cause intermittent
failures (races, probably) and are therefore hard to bisect.  I've got
my own on r8169 - as a module, it occasionally seems to come up late
- no error messages, but my /sources nfs mount doesn't happen [ but
my user nfs mounts from ~/.bashrc work fine ].  When I first saw
this (early 3.10-rc) it happened frequently, but now I hardly ever
notice it - happened again on my current boot (3.11-rc).

 All I can suggest is that you update to a current stable kernel
(3.10.latest) if you haven't already done so.  Might be fixed, might
be harder to hit, might be no change.

ĸen
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Re: [lfs-support] Boot problem

2013-08-19 Thread Juergen Beisert
Richard wrote:
  Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:37:21 -0500
  From: Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [lfs-support] Boot problem
  To: LFS Support List lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org
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  Richard wrote:
  I have a LFS 7.2 system and a Shuttle AV49 motherboard.
  About one time in every 20 bootups, my computer hangs
  up and I have to power it down and back up. When it
  hangs, the last line I see on the monitor is:
 
 Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
 
  When it boots successfully, the next line I see is:
 
 serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
 
  So it appears that the problem has something to do with
  the uart. I've tried searching the web and I did find
  some mention of a potential problem detecting the uart,
  but I didn't find a solution. Is anyone aware of this
  particular problem? I assume it is a kernel bug of some
  kind. I haven't been able to get any useful information
  from the logs, everything just seems to stop at the
  above point.
 
  I'd say it's more likely a hardware problem.
 
  Are you using the serial port at all?  If not, just disable all
  configuration items in the kernel regarding serial ports.
 
 -- Bruce

 I don't use the serial port often, but I'd like to have the option
 of using it.

Build the 8250 UART support as a module and check if the boot process still 
stops. If you need the UARTs just load the driver module.

 I'm sceptical that it is a hardware problem, since this problem
 doesn't show up with my other operating systems, which include
 LFS 6.2, PCLinux OS, Windows XP and Windows 98.

Maybe broken ACPI tables where newer kernels stumble across. Build as much 
features as a module and try again. Load the modules if you need their 
features and see what happens.

Juergen
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[lfs-support] Boot problem

2013-08-18 Thread Richard

I have a LFS 7.2 system and a Shuttle AV49 motherboard.
About one time in every 20 bootups, my computer hangs
up and I have to power it down and back up. When it
hangs, the last line I see on the monitor is:

  Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled

When it boots successfully, the next line I see is:

  serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

So it appears that the problem has something to do with
the uart. I've tried searching the web and I did find
some mention of a potential problem detecting the uart,
but I didn't find a solution. Is anyone aware of this
particular problem? I assume it is a kernel bug of some
kind. I haven't been able to get any useful information
from the logs, everything just seems to stop at the
above point.

Thanks,

Richard
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Re: [lfs-support] Boot problem

2013-08-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Richard wrote:

 I have a LFS 7.2 system and a Shuttle AV49 motherboard.
 About one time in every 20 bootups, my computer hangs
 up and I have to power it down and back up. When it
 hangs, the last line I see on the monitor is:

Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled

 When it boots successfully, the next line I see is:

serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A

 So it appears that the problem has something to do with
 the uart. I've tried searching the web and I did find
 some mention of a potential problem detecting the uart,
 but I didn't find a solution. Is anyone aware of this
 particular problem? I assume it is a kernel bug of some
 kind. I haven't been able to get any useful information
 from the logs, everything just seems to stop at the
 above point.

I'd say it's more likely a hardware problem.

Are you using the serial port at all?  If not, just disable all 
configuration items in the kernel regarding serial ports.

   -- Bruce

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