[lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread loki
Heya,

just wanted to ask what happened to CLFS?

On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.

Regards,
Daniel
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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Staub
On 02/19/14 05:46, loki wrote:
 Heya,

 just wanted to ask what happened to CLFS?

 On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.

 Regards,
 Daniel


Nothing happened to it, it's where it's always been, at trac.cross-lfs.org.
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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread Alice Wonder
On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 05:51 -0500, Chris Staub wrote:
 On 02/19/14 05:46, loki wrote:
  Heya,
 
  just wanted to ask what happened to CLFS?
 
  On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.
 
  Regards,
  Daniel
 
 
 Nothing happened to it, it's where it's always been, at trac.cross-lfs.org.

I get domain for sale there as well, and indication it has expired.

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread Armin K.
On 02/19/2014 11:55 AM, Alice Wonder wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 05:51 -0500, Chris Staub wrote:
 On 02/19/14 05:46, loki wrote:
 Heya,

 just wanted to ask what happened to CLFS?

 On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.

 Regards,
 Daniel


 Nothing happened to it, it's where it's always been, at trac.cross-lfs.org.
 
 I get domain for sale there as well, and indication it has expired.
 

Simple whois says that domain was renewed today (19.02), but nameservers
still point to the

Name Server:NS1.MYDOMAINCOM-EXPIRED.DOMAINPARKINGSERVER.NET


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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread William Harrington


 On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:46, loki l...@pancevo.rs wrote:
 
 On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.
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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread William Harrington


 On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:46, loki l...@pancevo.rs wrote:
 
 On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.

Oh man! I should have bought it! Well it worked 7 hours ago. It's still around.

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread William Harrington

On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:31 AM, Armin K. wrote:

 Simple whois says that domain was renewed today (19.02), but  
 nameservers
 still point to the

 Name Server:NS1.MYDOMAINCOM-EXPIRED.DOMAINPARKINGSERVER.NET

It's autorenewed and parked. But it will eventually expire.

Anyone wanting to view the site needs to use the ip address for now  
until Justin gets back with me.

208.97.140.69

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
William Harrington wrote:


 On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:46, loki l...@pancevo.rs wrote:

 On the address http://www.cross-lfs.org/ I'm getting a Domain for Sale.

 Oh man! I should have bought it! Well it worked 7 hours ago. It's still 
 around.

Why don't you rename it to cross.linuxfromscratch.org or similar?  No 
domain fees required.  It would only require a new entry in the lfs dns 
server and maybe a few updates to the web pages.

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread William Harrington

On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

 Why don't you rename it to cross.linuxfromscratch.org or similar?  No
 domain fees required.  It would only require a new entry in the lfs  
 dns
 server and maybe a few updates to the web pages.

   -- Bruce

Need to contact Justin Knierim about that. We really want to keep  
cross-lfs.org for certain reasons.

We should get it back no problem, but Jim Gifford owned it last, if I  
recall, and let it lapse. So we are waiting now.

Sincerely,

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
William Harrington wrote:

 On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

 Why don't you rename it to cross.linuxfromscratch.org or similar?  No
 domain fees required.  It would only require a new entry in the lfs
 dns
 server and maybe a few updates to the web pages.

 Need to contact Justin Knierim about that. We really want to keep
 cross-lfs.org for certain reasons.

 We should get it back no problem, but Jim Gifford owned it last, if I
 recall, and let it lapse. So we are waiting now.

OK.  Just let me know if you want me to do anything.

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS

2014-02-19 Thread William Harrington

On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote:

 OK.  Just let me know if you want me to do anything.

   -- Bruce

I heard from Jim Gifford, the original registrar, so I think we will  
get it sorted. Thanks for the offer, too.

Sincerely,

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Re: [lfs-support] [Clfs-support] CLFS eudev vs LFS udev

2014-02-17 Thread William Harrington

On Feb 16, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Alexey Orishko wrote:

  I'm aiming at minimum changes needed while moving from legacy udev.

Since udev was merged with systemd, Gentoo crated eudev which is  
explained here:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/eudev/

LFS extracted udev from systemd and created Makefile targets for LFS  
and is like your normal ole udev stripped from systemd.

If you used LFS 6.3, use LFS to upgrade your system. It'd be much  
easier to install a distro or use a current LFS system, though. But  
for meeting host system requirements you will need to do these things:

Upgrade kernel headers, upgrade glibc (newer udev requires it),  
upgrade tar, install xz, and you also don' t need to update gawk to  
4.1. You don't need to rebuild programs against the new glibc, because  
your new glibc will have the required versioned symbols those programs  
require, but you do need to do this: whichever kernel your current  
glibc was built with, you'll need to use --enable-kernel=kernel  
version you used when building your LFS 6.3 system. Default was  
2.6.0.  I think that may cover most things.

I updated the LFS 6.3 livecd to build current CLFS and LFS versions  
and can view my notes here: http://cross-lfs.org/~kb0iic/livecdupd/

I didn't upgrade some things like e2fsprogs and udev becauase I didn't  
upgrade kernel headers. I left all of that alone.

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[lfs-support] CLFS eudev vs LFS udev

2014-02-16 Thread Alexey Orishko
Hi guys,

I have an old LFS 6.3 system I'm going to upgrade.
I've noticed that LFS-7.4 and CLFS 2.1.0 have two different udev variants.

A few questions related to that:
- Will CLFS and LFS go different ways in package selection? (udev in particular)
- Which one udev variant CLFS Eudev-1.3 or LFS Udev-206 (Extracted
from systemd-206)
  would you recommend?
  I'm aiming at minimum changes needed while moving from legacy udev.

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS eudev vs LFS udev

2014-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alexey Orishko wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I have an old LFS 6.3 system I'm going to upgrade.
 I've noticed that LFS-7.4 and CLFS 2.1.0 have two different udev variants.

 A few questions related to that:
 - Will CLFS and LFS go different ways in package selection? (udev in 
 particular)
 - Which one udev variant CLFS Eudev-1.3 or LFS Udev-206 (Extracted
 from systemd-206)
would you recommend?
I'm aiming at minimum changes needed while moving from legacy udev.

Personally I'd recommend:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.5-rc1/

We are at udev-208.

You may also find the following helpful:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/files/updating-lfs.html

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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS eudev vs LFS udev

2014-02-16 Thread Alexey Orishko
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 Personally I'd recommend:

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.5-rc1/

Any approximate date for a final release?

There are a few issues with a new release for me at this point:
- I need a kernel which has a long term support (3.10.x used in LFS-7.4 does)
- I've switched from LFS to Cross-LFS and building on 64-bit Intel
Core2 for 32-bit Intel Atom...

Regards,
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Re: [lfs-support] CLFS eudev vs LFS udev

2014-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alexey Orishko wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Bruce Dubbs bruce.du...@gmail.com wrote:
 Personally I'd recommend:

 http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/7.5-rc1/

 Any approximate date for a final release?

The target is March 1st.

 There are a few issues with a new release for me at this point:
 - I need a kernel which has a long term support (3.10.x used in LFS-7.4 does)
 - I've switched from LFS to Cross-LFS and building on 64-bit Intel
 Core2 for 32-bit Intel Atom...

For your host, LFS should be fine, but you can substitute 3.10.x.  For 
the Atom, you may want to use CLFS.  I don't have any experience with 
the Atom.

   -- Bruce

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