Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-30 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:27:34PM +, Ken Moffat wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 04:05:47PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
  Ken Moffat wrote:
  
   In my case (also with separate /boot partitions) I have a
   directory 'boot' on the boot partition (i.e. /boot/boot when
   everything is mounted) containing a symlink called 'grub' pointing
   to ../grub.  I think that I created it (with /boot mounted, so from
   the host system) using
mkdir /boot/boot
ln s ../grub /boot/boot
  
  Say what?  If you have a separate boot partition mounted on 
  /mnt/lfs/boot (/boot within chroot) when you run grub-install, then 
  everything should be installed in the correct location.  Those extra 
  commands should not be needed.
  
[...]
   I realise that a separate /boot seems to be
 uncommon, even among LFS users, but the problem I had is mentioned
 only rarely, if at all, so maybe there is something else which
 contributed to it.  Perhaps it was even a bug in 1.97 (failed to
 find the files in $root/grub).
 
 Update - I did an install on a new machine today, using LFS-7.1 with
a separate /boot partition, and after building/installing grub-1.99
it did NOT need the symlink, so I guess it really was a grub-1.97
bug.

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-30 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote:

  Update - I did an install on a new machine today, using LFS-7.1 with
 a separate /boot partition, and after building/installing grub-1.99
 it did NOT need the symlink, so I guess it really was a grub-1.97
 bug.

I didn't need it for 1.97.  I think it more likely that you had an issue 
with your customization.  In amy casy, I'm glad it's working for you now.

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

i have finished the installation without any errors. Only now, grub want not
start the LFS System. File not found is the message from Grub. 


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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,
 
 i have finished the installation without any errors. Only now, grub want not
 start the LFS System. File not found is the message from Grub. 

This falls in the category of It doesn't work.  We can't help if you 
don't give any details.  Where is the kernel installed?  A directory 
listing of /boot and the layout of your disk would help.  Also post the 
contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:45:34 -0500 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 This falls in the category of It doesn't work.  We can't help if you 
 don't give any details.  Where is the kernel installed?  A directory 
 listing of /boot and the layout of your disk would help.  Also post the 
 contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg.

oh so i mean not. Okay i try much things it want not start. I think it
was i use a boot Partion. I have now start new, and first run was without any
errors :) and now i make secound steps and then we see what happen. 

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 05:48:37PM +0100, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:45:34 -0500 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
  This falls in the category of It doesn't work.  We can't help if you 
  don't give any details.  Where is the kernel installed?  A directory 
  listing of /boot and the layout of your disk would help.  Also post the 
  contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
 
 oh so i mean not. Okay i try much things it want not start. I think it
 was i use a boot Partion. I have now start new, and first run was without any
 errors :) and now i make secound steps and then we see what happen. 
 
 Regards
 Silvio

 When you've got to the end, it's usually best to *wait* for advice,
repeating the build without understanding the problem is not a
reliable way to get better results!

 As you guessed, separate boot partitions can give problems with
grub2.  In my case (also with separate /boot partitions) I have a
directory 'boot' on the boot partition (i.e. /boot/boot when
everything is mounted) containing a symlink called 'grub' pointing
to ../grub.  I think that I created it (with /boot mounted, so from
the host system) using
 mkdir /boot/boot
 ln s ../grub /boot/boot

 I think this is necessary because grub installed its many
components into /boot/grub and assumes that is where they should be
when it needs them.

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 19:35:17 + Ken Moffat wrote:
  When you've got to the end, it's usually best to *wait* for advice,
 repeating the build without understanding the problem is not a
 reliable way to get better results!

Yes thats correct. But i has some error message in build process, and so im
was worried is really all good. So i has started new.

  As you guessed, separate boot partitions can give problems with
 grub2.  In my case (also with separate /boot partitions) I have a
 directory 'boot' on the boot partition (i.e. /boot/boot when
 everything is mounted) containing a symlink called 'grub' pointing
 to ../grub.  I think that I created it (with /boot mounted, so from
 the host system) using
  mkdir /boot/boot
  ln s ../grub /boot/boot

I has make so. 

mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/lfs
mkdir /mnt/lfs/boot
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/lfs/boot

Its free the root Partion have mounted with handbook of lfs.  So was correct
Path /boot/grub. That is why i not understand the message from grub, because 
Path was correct, Kernel was correct with name. Has not understand so i think 
it a build error.

  I think this is necessary because grub installed its many
 components into /boot/grub and assumes that is where they should be
 when it needs them.

Yes

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote:

  As you guessed, separate boot partitions can give problems with
 grub2.  

Then I haven't done a good job at explaining.

One recommendation is to have a separate small partition just for boot 
information. That way each build, whether LFS or some commercial distro, 
can access the same boot files and access can be made from any booted 
system.

If you choose to do this, you will need to mount the separate 
partition, move all files in the current /boot directory (e.g. the linux 
kernel you just built in the previous section) to the new partition.

You will then need to unmount the partition and remount it as /boot. If 
you do this, be sure to update /etc/fstab.

...

cat  /boot/grub/grub.cfg  EOF
# Begin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
set default=0
set timeout=5

insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,2)

menuentry GNU/Linux, Linux 3.2.11-lfs-SVN-20120314 {
 linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.11-lfs-SVN-20120314 root=/dev/sda2 ro
}
EOF


If you used a separate /boot partition, remove /boot from the above 
linux line. You will also need to change the set root line to point to 
the boot partition.


 In my case (also with separate /boot partitions) I have a
 directory 'boot' on the boot partition (i.e. /boot/boot when
 everything is mounted) containing a symlink called 'grub' pointing
 to ../grub.  I think that I created it (with /boot mounted, so from
 the host system) using
  mkdir /boot/boot
  ln s ../grub /boot/boot

Say what?  If you have a separate boot partition mounted on 
/mnt/lfs/boot (/boot within chroot) when you run grub-install, then 
everything should be installed in the correct location.  Those extra 
commands should not be needed.

  I think this is necessary because grub installed its many
 components into /boot/grub and assumes that is where they should be
 when it needs them.

Grub looks for grub/ in a couple of places, the first is $root/grub and 
then $root/boot/grub where the 'set root' command is used, but not the 
'root=' portion of the linux line.

Can you suggest better wording for the book?

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-22 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 04:05:47PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Ken Moffat wrote:
 
  In my case (also with separate /boot partitions) I have a
  directory 'boot' on the boot partition (i.e. /boot/boot when
  everything is mounted) containing a symlink called 'grub' pointing
  to ../grub.  I think that I created it (with /boot mounted, so from
  the host system) using
   mkdir /boot/boot
   ln s ../grub /boot/boot
 
 Say what?  If you have a separate boot partition mounted on 
 /mnt/lfs/boot (/boot within chroot) when you run grub-install, then 
 everything should be installed in the correct location.  Those extra 
 commands should not be needed.
 
 I haven't reinstalled grub since the first version which compiled
on x86_64, perhaps 1.97.  At that time, either I was in chroot with
/boot mounted like that, or else I had used lilo or grub1 to boot
the new system - in that case, /boot would have been mounted at
/boot directly.  Testing bootloaders gives me too much grief (in
terms of pre-planning so that I can recover if things go wrong.

 I remember that it took me a few retries to get it to work, and I'm
sure I commented, maybe in lfs-support, at that time.

 For the other two boxes I've moved to grub2, I just installed the
symlink as a matter of course because it worked for me.

   I think this is necessary because grub installed its many
  components into /boot/grub and assumes that is where they should be
  when it needs them.
 
 Grub looks for grub/ in a couple of places, the first is $root/grub and 
 then $root/boot/grub where the 'set root' command is used, but not the 
 'root=' portion of the linux line.
 
 Can you suggest better wording for the book?
 
-- Bruce
 
 Not for the moment. I realise that a separate /boot seems to be
uncommon, even among LFS users, but the problem I had is mentioned
only rarely, if at all, so maybe there is something else which
contributed to it.  Perhaps it was even a bug in 1.97 (failed to
find the files in $root/grub).

The wording is enough to indicate that things might not work as
expected, I'm not going to suggest something different unless I get
a better grip on the problem.  But, I don't normally upgrade grub,
so not very likely.

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[lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

now in Build LFS System, GCC come the error again. 

checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether /sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc -B/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
-isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include
-isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-includeaccepts -g... yes checking
for /sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc -B/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
-isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include
-isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-includeoption to accept ISO C89...
unsupported checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure:
error: in `/sources/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgcc': configure: error: C
preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check See `config.log' for more details.
make[1]: *** [configure-target-libgcc] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory
`/sources/gcc-build' make: *** [all] Error 2 


The config.log find under http://nopaste.info/87120df9c2.html.

I have deleteted the folder and start with new gcc folders. But the error
message come again.


Have someone a idea?
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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread Rick Shelton
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:01 AM, siefke_lis...@web.de
siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,

 now in Build LFS System, GCC come the error again.

 checking for suffix of object files... o
 checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
 checking whether /sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc -B/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/
 -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include    accepts -g... yes checking
 for /sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc -B/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/
 -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include    option to accept ISO C89...
 unsupported checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure:
 error: in `/sources/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgcc': configure: error: C
 preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check See `config.log' for more details.
 make[1]: *** [configure-target-libgcc] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/sources/gcc-build' make: *** [all] Error 2


 The config.log find under http://nopaste.info/87120df9c2.html.


In your config.log, on several lines, there is the message:
# /sources/gcc-4.6.2/libgcc/configure: line 1441: /lib/cpp: No such
file or directory 

It looks like the symbolic link wasn't created correctly. (Hopefully
it is as simple as that.)
Double check with the installation of GCC in Ch6 of the LFS book.

~rick

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 07:17:44 -0600
Rick Shelton rick.shel...@gmail.com wrote:
 In your config.log, on several lines, there is the message:
 # /sources/gcc-4.6.2/libgcc/configure: line 1441: /lib/cpp: No such
 file or directory 

 It looks like the symbolic link wasn't created correctly. (Hopefully
 it is as simple as that.)
 Double check with the installation of GCC in Ch6 of the LFS book.


Yes i have check the configure Arguments in 2 Phase of GCC installation, was 
with 
enable_languages=c,c++, so i set the symlink and start again. Hope it run.


Regards
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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread Andrew Benton
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:02:09 +
siefke_lis...@web.de siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:

 Hello,
 
 now in Build LFS System, GCC come the error again. 
 
 checking for suffix of object files... o
 checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
 checking whether /sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc -B/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/
 -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-includeaccepts -g... yes checking
 for /sources/gcc-build/./gcc/xgcc -B/sources/gcc-build/./gcc/
 -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include
 -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-includeoption to accept ISO C89...
 unsupported checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp configure:
 error: in `/sources/gcc-build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgcc': configure: error: C
 preprocessor /lib/cpp fails sanity check See `config.log' for more details.
 make[1]: *** [configure-target-libgcc] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/sources/gcc-build' make: *** [all] Error 2 
 
 
 The config.log find under http://nopaste.info/87120df9c2.html.
 
 I have deleteted the folder and start with new gcc folders. But the error
 message come again.

Whereabouts in the book are you? Is this in /tools or in chroot?

/sources/gcc-4.6.2/libgcc/configure: line 1441: /lib/cpp: No such file or 
directory

It looks like you're in chroot 'cos it says /sources/gcc-4.6.2, in
which case, why's it looking for /lib/cpp? We don't create /lib/cpp
until after we've installed gcc, while you're configuring gcc, cpp
should be /tools/lib/cpp. I suspect that something has gone wrong while
you were adjusting the toolchain, but I don't know what.

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:38:48 + Andrew Benton wrote:
 Whereabouts in the book are you? Is this in /tools or in chroot?

Im in chroot, im in chapter 6. 

 /sources/gcc-4.6.2/libgcc/configure: line 1441: /lib/cpp: No such file or
 directory

I has symlinked now the cpp to /lib/cpp but the error message is the same. 

root:/sources/gcc-build# ls -l /lib | grep cpp
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 Mar 21 14:28 cpp - /usr/bin/cpp

 
 It looks like you're in chroot 'cos it says /sources/gcc-4.6.2, in
 which case, why's it looking for /lib/cpp? We don't create /lib/cpp
 until after we've installed gcc, while you're configuring gcc, cpp
 should be /tools/lib/cpp. I suspect that something has gone wrong while
 you were adjusting the toolchain, but I don't know what.

But in /tools/lib is no cpp.

root:/bin# ls -l /tools/lib | grep cpp
root:/bin#


Mmh and the most dialogs i make copy and paste. 

I should start new i think or?


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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

so i have try to build gcc with the symlink, but the error is the same. In
config log is No such file or Directory. 

Config Log:
http://nopaste.info/46ce92a6ab.html

Can me someone say which simlink i must set. Or should begin new?



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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread Thomas Pegg
On 3/21/2012 1:03 PM, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,

 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:38:48 + Andrew Benton wrote:
 Whereabouts in the book are you? Is this in /tools or in chroot?
 Im in chroot, im in chapter 6.

 /sources/gcc-4.6.2/libgcc/configure: line 1441: /lib/cpp: No such file or
 directory
 I has symlinked now the cpp to /lib/cpp but the error message is the same.

 root:/sources/gcc-build# ls -l /lib | grep cpp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 Mar 21 14:28 cpp -  /usr/bin/cpp


 It looks like you're in chroot 'cos it says /sources/gcc-4.6.2, in
 which case, why's it looking for /lib/cpp? We don't create /lib/cpp
 until after we've installed gcc, while you're configuring gcc, cpp
 should be /tools/lib/cpp. I suspect that something has gone wrong while
 you were adjusting the toolchain, but I don't know what.
 But in /tools/lib is no cpp.

 root:/bin# ls -l /tools/lib | grep cpp
 root:/bin#


 Mmh and the most dialogs i make copy and paste.

 I should start new i think or?

I think /lib/cpp is not your problem, at this stage that should not 
exist as you have not installed the final build of gcc yet. However 
looking at the log you posted, one thing I noticed was several messages 
about missing stdio.h, now I believe that is a glibc header, do a check 
under your /usr/include directory and see if you find it. If not you may 
need to redo glibc, I believe your early enough in chapter 6 that you 
could rebuild it without too many issues.

Thomas

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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread Thomas Pegg
On 3/21/2012 4:12 PM, Thomas Pegg wrote:
 On 3/21/2012 1:03 PM, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,

 On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:38:48 + Andrew Benton wrote:
 Whereabouts in the book are you? Is this in /tools or in chroot?
 Im in chroot, im in chapter 6.

 /sources/gcc-4.6.2/libgcc/configure: line 1441: /lib/cpp: No such 
 file or
 directory
 I has symlinked now the cpp to /lib/cpp but the error message is the 
 same.

 root:/sources/gcc-build# ls -l /lib | grep cpp
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  12 Mar 21 14:28 cpp -  /usr/bin/cpp


 It looks like you're in chroot 'cos it says /sources/gcc-4.6.2, in
 which case, why's it looking for /lib/cpp? We don't create /lib/cpp
 until after we've installed gcc, while you're configuring gcc, cpp
 should be /tools/lib/cpp. I suspect that something has gone wrong while
 you were adjusting the toolchain, but I don't know what.
 But in /tools/lib is no cpp.

 root:/bin# ls -l /tools/lib | grep cpp
 root:/bin#


 Mmh and the most dialogs i make copy and paste.

 I should start new i think or?

 I think /lib/cpp is not your problem, at this stage that should not 
 exist as you have not installed the final build of gcc yet. However 
 looking at the log you posted, one thing I noticed was several 
 messages about missing stdio.h, now I believe that is a glibc header, 
 do a check under your /usr/include directory and see if you find it. 
 If not you may need to redo glibc, I believe your early enough in 
 chapter 6 that you could rebuild it without too many issues.

Scratch what I said about rebuilding glibc your already past the 
re-adjusting toolchain phase forgot how early that was in ch 6, you 
would probably be better to start over.

Thomas


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Re: [lfs-support] preprocessor error

2012-03-21 Thread siefke_lis...@web.de
Hello,

On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:12:29 -0400 Thomas Pegg wrote:
 I think /lib/cpp is not your problem, at this stage that should not 
 exist as you have not installed the final build of gcc yet. However 
 looking at the log you posted, one thing I noticed was several messages 
 about missing stdio.h, now I believe that is a glibc header, do a check 
 under your /usr/include directory and see if you find it. If not you may 
 need to redo glibc, I believe your early enough in chapter 6 that you 
 could rebuild it without too many issues.


at moment run the GCC checks, i have delete the folder from gcc and gcc-build 
and start with fresh folders. So i read on Maillingarchive from LFS. The file
stdio.h is present in system in folder /usr/include. 

Regards
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