On Fri, 2010-07-02 at 11:14 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> OTOH, my version (with X and GNOME) seems to switch to 80x25 very
> easily when I press CTRL-ALT-F1 through CTRL-ALT-F6, so the kernel
> must support _something_ along those lines.
You're using the Nouveau driver? The X-only drivers like NVI
On Friday 02 July 2010 12:14:51 Mike McCarty wrote:
> Simon Geard wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 17:59 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> >> Apparently, it's the stated non-goal to support switching back
> >> by the authors (or at least owners) of the driver.
> >> So, unless he's willing to get the sou
Simon Geard wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 17:59 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>> Apparently, it's the stated non-goal to support switching back
>> by the authors (or at least owners) of the driver.
>> So, unless he's willing to get the source for the driver, and
>> rewrite portions of it himself, the
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 17:59 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Apparently, it's the stated non-goal to support switching back
> by the authors (or at least owners) of the driver.
> So, unless he's willing to get the source for the driver, and
> rewrite portions of it himself, there's not going to be a wa
Simon Geard wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 13:25 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>> Simon Geard wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:25 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
>> You were ok up to here...
>
> A combination of trying to simplify, and trying to remember stuff I last
> played with in college, back
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 20:46 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> Simon, Trent, Mike:
>
> Thank you very much for the rich, detailed, interesting
> theories and explanations about video drivers, booting,
> X, fonts, pixels, my boot-up component steps, etc.
> All this knowledge and experience is obviou
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 13:25 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Simon Geard wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:25 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> You were ok up to here...
A combination of trying to simplify, and trying to remember stuff I last
played with in college, back when accelerated graphics
al...@verizon.net wrote:
[...]
> post, ALL I'm interested in - for the moment - is someone
> who HAS "nouveau" active on the machine and has a boot-up
> experience different than mine (or even identical -
> the point is to compare notes and for me to "steal" a few
> ideas :):
Thus endeth the thr
On Wednesday 30 June 2010 21:46:02 al...@verizon.net wrote:
> Simon, Trent, Mike:
>
> Thank you very much for the rich, detailed, interesting
> theories and explanations about video drivers, booting,
> X, fonts, pixels, my boot-up component steps, etc.
> All this knowledge and experience is obvious
Simon, Trent, Mike:
Thank you very much for the rich, detailed, interesting
theories and explanations about video drivers, booting,
X, fonts, pixels, my boot-up component steps, etc.
All this knowledge and experience is obviously worth a
thread of its own, something I'd be following keenly.
BUT h
Simon Geard wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:25 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
You were ok up to here...
> The 80x25 mode you boot in is special in that regard, because that
> combination of pixels and fonts is implemented in the BIOS itself, as a
> standard feature going back 20 years. And bei
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 10:25 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> With "nouveau", my boot-up goes through these basic steps:
>
> 1. The original/"regular" console sequence (80x25)
At this point, the display is under BIOS control, running in the default
text mode - the same as for GRUB, and (depending
al...@verizon.net wrote:
> On Jun 29, 07:40:18 AM, Simon wrote:
>
> I'm confused. So before we go to the _exact_ steps of
Yes. You are conflating almost unrelated things.
I'm not a specialist on that particular video processor,
so take what I write here with a little grain of salt
here and there
> With "nouveau", my boot-up goes through these basic steps:
My setup is KMS with intel hardware.
> 1. The original/"regular" console sequence (80x25)
> 2. Nouveau is loaded by UDEV
> 3. At this point, the console goes blank for a sec or so.
> The preceding messages are wiped out.
> 4. The rema
On Jun 29, 07:40:18 AM, Simon wrote:
> What exactly is your problem with running in the high-res mode?
> If it's just that the font size is too small, I'd have to repeat
> Stephane's suggestion of selecting a different console font
> (somewhere in the kernel config, I think).
I'm confused. So be
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 13:28 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> Whether I have "fbcon" in the kernel or as a module (with its
> convenient font, 80x25 full wide-screen) I cannot (or I
> don't know how to) change the 240x67 resolution back to
> what I have always used and preferred, 80x25 full wide-sc
Hi Aleksandar, Andy, Neil, Simon and
all the other great participants in this thread:
Jun 22, 11:54:28 AM, Alex wrote:
> At that point ("nouveau" Udev load? ), the screen goes
> blank for a split second then continues OK all the way
> to the console prompt.
> Note: The screen resolution switches
Hi
I played some more with the parameters you suggested be
changed in order to finally reach a config that would work with
nouveau and GeForce 8300GS on my system.
In the final analysis it seems that only two (2) are CRITICAL:
DD > Graphics support > Console display driver support
{*} Framebuffe
On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 10:49 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> How come the original NVIDIA driver, after all these ugly
> and hostile parameter settings I threw at it, it was left still
> standing at the end of the day?
The one thing the nVidia driver is supposedly intolerant of is
framebuffer dri
Jun 21, 2010 06:11:14 PM, Andrew Benton wrote.
Jun 21, 2010 08:54:20 PM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote.
Jun 22, 2010 04:25:40 AM, Simon Geard wrote.
Hi guys,
The "nouveau" now works !! Boot-up, KDE, Fluxbox.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Details:
The boot-up proceeds to the point it would go blank permanently
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 11:21 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> I'm attaching the compressed copy of the new 'config'.
I notice CONFIG_DRM_I915 is set, as a module. Shouldn't matter in theory
since you presumably don't have Intel graphics hardware as well as
NVidia, but probably worth disabling it a
>On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:21:27 -0500 (CDT)
>al...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> Jun 21, 2010 10:52:35 AM, lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
>
> On my 'make menuconfig'
> "Device Drivers>Graphics support>
> [*] Support for frame buffer devices" screen
> this is all I have:
>
> --- Support for frame
On 21/06/10 17:21, al...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> I did find your parameters in
>
> Device Drivers> Graphics support:
>
> < > Userspace VESA VGA graphics support
> [ ] VESA VGA graphics support
>
> I disabled them as shown.
> Alas, still the same problem with the recompiled kernel
> (the video die
Jun 21, 2010 10:52:35 AM, lfs-support@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
On my 'make menuconfig'
"Device Drivers>Graphics support>
[*] Support for frame buffer devices" screen
this is all I have:
--- Support for frame buffer devices
[*] Enable firmware EDID
[ ] Framebuffer foreign endianness suppor
Jun 21, 2010 06:38:01 AM, Andrew Benton wrote
CONFIG_FB_UVESA=m
CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
Device Drivers --->
Graphics support --->
-*- Support for frame buffer devices --->
Disable everything on the Frame buffer menu. I think the vesa driver and
nouveau are in conflict, that is why you're
On 21/06/10 00:04, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> I bzip2'ed the file, so let's see if 11702 bytes can now
> sneak below the 50 KB limit :).
>
CONFIG_FB_UVESA=m
CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
Device Drivers --->
Graphics support --->
-*- Support for frame buffer devices --->
Disable everything on th
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 18:04 -0500, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> I bzip2'ed the file, so let's see if 11702 bytes can now
> sneak below the 50 KB limit :).
>
> BTW, 'config' is for a system of this nature:
>
> ASUS P5E-VM HDMI, intel Core2Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz.
> G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2 1000 (PC2 8
Jun 20, 2010 06:21:59 AM, Andrew Benton wrote
Jun 20, 2010 08:51:09 AM, Aleksandar Kuktin wrote
> Can we see your 'config' file?
Sure. I'll try to attach it. If you do not get it
point me to some other way to pass it along.
Back at the ranch ...
Jun 20, 2010 05:36:11 PM, lfs-support-boun...@linu
ong.
> ...
> Unfortunately (could my nouveau driver be jinxed? :):
>
> Jun 20, 2010 05:36:11 PM, lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
>
> Your mail to 'lfs-support' with the subject
>
> Re: Problem installing the "nouveau" driver
>
>
:):
Jun 20, 2010 05:36:11 PM, lfs-support-boun...@linuxfromscratch.org wrote:
Your mail to 'lfs-support' with the subject
Re: Problem installing the "nouveau" driver
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason it is being held:
Mes
>On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:21:38 +0100
>Andrew Benton wrote:
> > 2. I'm willing to work with a "nouveau" specialist to
> > help them solve this problem if anybody is interested.
> >
>
> Can we see your kernel config? Could you put it up somewhere like
> pastebin and post a link so we can see please
On 20/06/10 00:27, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> hi Neil, Andy, Simon
> and other (B)LFS would-be participants:
>
> This is probably my last installment on this
> "nouveau" driver problem thread.
>
Why? Are you giving up?
> 2. I'm willing to work with a "nouveau" specialist to
> help them solve this
hi Neil, Andy, SimonĀ and other (B)LFS would-be participants:This is probably my last installment on this"nouveau" driver problem thread.PROBLEM SUMMARY:1. The kernel module kills my video on boot-up.2. The Xorg ("graphics") module works and doesn't work.SYSTEM:i686-pc-linux-gnu, 2.6.34, udev-156,
On 19/06/10 04:06, Simon Geard wrote:
> Your advice is out of date - it was valid when Nouveau first entered the
> kernel, but the 2.6.34 kernel Alex is running does not use external
> firmware.
>
My apologies, I was unaware that the kernel had changed. The OP's
problem sounded like the problems
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 17:35 +0100, Andrew Benton wrote:
> On 18/06/10 02:29, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i686-pc-linux-gnu, 2.6.34, udev-156, (B)LFS
> > NVidia GeForce 8300GS
> >
>
> I think the 8000 series needs extra firmware. My wife's computer has a
> 8400GS which needs nv86.c
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:59 +0100, Andrew Benton wrote:
> No, you're not helping. His video card need some firmware to work with
> the nouveau driver. He needs to either put the firmware in /lib/firmware
> or compile it into the kernel. If he read the syslog from the failed
> boot he would see t
On 18/06/10 20:00, Neal Murphy wrote:
> OK. So it is not a simple "I'm sleeping and I can't wake up!" problem. This is
> about where you discard all notions of 'how it should work' and ask, "How can
> I see what it is really doing, since it doesn't seems to be do what is
> expected?" It almost soun
On Friday 18 June 2010 13:38:39 al...@verizon.net wrote:
> Jun 18, 2010 12:41:04 PM, Andrew Benton wrote
> me his comments on the subject.
>
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for your message. As I told Neil below,
> I'm hard at work at going over some log datails, etc. now.
> (I was hoping against h
Jun 18, 2010 12:41:04 PM, Andrew Benton wrote
me his comments on the subject.
Hi Andy,
Thanks for your message. As I told Neil below,
I'm hard at work at going over some log datails, etc. now.
(I was hoping against hope Neil's interesting workaround
will bring me afloat, but no cigar).
I'l
On 18/06/10 02:29, al...@verizon.net wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i686-pc-linux-gnu, 2.6.34, udev-156, (B)LFS
> NVidia GeForce 8300GS
>
I think the 8000 series needs extra firmware. My wife's computer has a
8400GS which needs nv86.ctxprog and nv86.ctxvals. I compile them into
the kernel with
CONFIG_FW_L
On Thursday 17 June 2010 21:29:35 al...@verizon.net wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i686-pc-linux-gnu, 2.6.34, udev-156, (B)LFS
> NVidia GeForce 8300GS
>
> I've been trying to install/run the nouveau "nouveau"
> kernel driver, to avoid installing the NVIDIA driver
> after each kernel upgrade.
>
> PROBLEM:
> S
Hello,i686-pc-linux-gnu, 2.6.34, udev-156, (B)LFSNVidia GeForce 8300GSI've been trying to install/run the nouveau "nouveau"kernel driver, to avoid installing the NVIDIA driverafter each kernel upgrade.PROBLEM:So far, if on the "nouveau" kernel, I lose the video (the screen goes blank) on boot-up t
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