What about LFS for Alpha?

2010-06-01 Thread Rafael Ruiz
Hi all.
What happen with LFS for Alpha (not CLFS). I have try to find Kedellin, but
there nothing.

Best,
Rafa

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Re: What about LFS for Alpha?

2010-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On 1 June 2010 21:51, Rafael Ruiz gand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all.
 What happen with LFS for Alpha (not CLFS). I have try to find Kedellin, but
 there nothing.

 Best,
 Rafa

 Nobody has the hardware.  Also, from what I can gather (particularly
my experience at clfs), building on it is very slow.

 There were comments about longstanding alpha kernel breakage
on lkml in the last month or two, and my impression is that very few
people who still use alphas run them with recent software.

 I don't think the alpha has been mentioned since Kelledin last
posted here (google thinks that was probably in 2005).

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Re: What about LFS for Alpha?

2010-06-01 Thread Rafael Ruiz
Thanks ken.
But where I can find book and packages? These must be in anywhere.

Best,
Rafa

2010/6/1 Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com

 On 1 June 2010 21:51, Rafael Ruiz gand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi all.
  What happen with LFS for Alpha (not CLFS). I have try to find Kedellin,
 but
  there nothing.
 
  Best,
  Rafa
 
  Nobody has the hardware.  Also, from what I can gather (particularly
 my experience at clfs), building on it is very slow.

  There were comments about longstanding alpha kernel breakage
 on lkml in the last month or two, and my impression is that very few
 people who still use alphas run them with recent software.

  I don't think the alpha has been mentioned since Kelledin last
 posted here (google thinks that was probably in 2005).

 ĸen
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Re: What about LFS for Alpha?

2010-06-01 Thread Ken Moffat
On 1 June 2010 23:04, Rafael Ruiz gand...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks ken.
 But where I can find book and packages? These must be in anywhere.

 Kelledin appears to have dropped off the net, so no idea.

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Re: What about LFS for Alpha?

2010-06-01 Thread emteeoh
Its probably been 6 years since I built lfs on my alpha, and I have not kept it 
up to date, but when I built it, there were no special packages for alpha 
except milo and aboot. The only differences I recall were in the building of 
gcc and glibc, (you were just telling them to build for a different arch) and 
booting.

Milo was used on NT boot roms, and was a lot like lilo, but I had problems with 
it because it was built against an old kernel and didn't support a lot of 
hardware and file systems (ext2, for example, as I recall), but forward porting 
it was a huge deal, well beyond my time commitment.

Aboot booted on vms boot roms, and needed a bsd disk partition, not an msdos 
disk partition and worked much better for me. 

As for where to find milo and/or aboot... Well, I suggest google is your friend.



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From: Rafael Ruiz gand...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 00:04:47 
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