On 14 June 2014 00:02, Baho Utot <baho-u...@invalid.com> wrote:

> On Friday, June 13, 2014 11:46:21 PM Armin K. wrote:
> > On 06/13/2014 09:34 PM, Dan McGhee wrote:
> > > Getting ready to build LFS-7.5 and want to "head off" some situations
> > > before I begin.  Somewhere in my last {,B}LFS build, I lost--or never
> > > had--the ability to run "su" or "su -"  Yes, I have sudo, but I use the
> > > Package Users--I know, I know--System and need "su."  I have PAM
> > > installed currently and used Christopher Gregory's solution, documented
> > > on a recent post to "blfs-dev" and copied /etc/pam.d/su to
> > > /etc/pam.d/su-1.  This did not solve the situation.
> > >
> > > Here is the result of running
> > >
> > >> -rwxr-xr-x  1 shadow-4.1.5.1 shadow-4.1.5.1    135159 Dec 11  2013 su
> > >
> > > Does "su" need to be owned by root or run suid to work?  Do the files
> in
> > > /etc/pam.d need to be owned by root?
> > >
> > > I know that PAM is a BLFS thing and I've never used it before my last
> > > build.  Needed it to satisfy dependencies for BLFS packages that I
> > > wanted to use.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dan
> >
> > I don't really know what are you pointing at. Shadow will install "su"
> > binary without PAM at all. You won't have any "su" executable in /tools
> > though since no package installs it anymore. You could try and install
> > shadow in there if you really need it, but imho, package users is really
> > terrible packaging method. I think Fernando uses paco or something like
> > that, and that sounds more elegant to me.
>
> I use rpm as a package manager and it works well.
> I build it into /tools and then use spec files for the chapter-6 and later
> builds.
>
>
Paco is excellent for *LFS; it's a simple package logger with an uninstall
option, however, it's now become Porg (porg.sourceforge.net). I haven't
tried the new build as I'm still using the last available paco release, so
I'm not sure what porg offers that paco didn't.

Richard
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