Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Michael Allan
Please let me clarify: I think it was the original collective decision that was ill-informed, and not the decision to vote on the issue, or to honour the result of that vote. But it now appears that safety is a concern (as Matt points out), which wasn't originally understood. Since it's a

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Michael Allan m...@zelea.com wrote: But it now appears that safety is a concern (as Matt points out), which wasn't originally understood. Since it's a question of safety vs. convenience, then maybe it's better to revert immediately to the default setting (the

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Andrew Lewis
I find myself agreeing. While emails that reply to all when the intentioned recipient is a just a specific friend are tragic, the default reply to behavior for most emails on this list(or at least mine) is to the entire list. That's what a mailing list is for? -Andrew On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:52

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
The strain on server argument and the list server filtering argument seem silly to me (I doubt any configuration other than allowing very large attachments will substantially impact the server and Mailman does redundancy filtering quite well if you allow it)... and I'm on lists where forwarding

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Michael Allan m...@zelea.com wrote: Maxim Kammerer said: ... Any decent mailing list uses reply-to-list as a default. ... Pardon me, but that's not true. GNU Mailman is a decent list server and it ships with reply-to-sender. I wrote “mailing list”, not

[liberationtech] Open Government Data Standards

2013-03-20 Thread Yosem Companys
From: James McKinney ja...@opennorth.ca I'd like to announce to this group a new community project aimed at people creating civic technology and (re-)publishing government data to adopt standards for their data and APIs: the Popolo project. http://popoloproject.com/ A major barrier to

[liberationtech] NATO defines Cyberwar

2013-03-20 Thread Andreas Bader
Remember the Cyberwar discussion we had some weeks ago? Now the NATO official defines the Cyberwar: http://ccdcoe.org/249.html Andreas -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at

[liberationtech] // Most comprehensive IPv4 mapping project made with illegal botnet //

2013-03-20 Thread Julian Oliver
I'm very impressed by this project: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/19/carna_botnet_ipv4_internet_map/ http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/paper.html http://internetcensus2012.bitbucket.org/images.html A hardcore but, as many note, 'necessary' strategy if one wishes to get

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Matt Mackall
On Wed, 2013-03-20 at 18:02 +0200, Maxim Kammerer wrote: Isn't that a valid point? No, it's a useless imaginary construct. A valid point would be an example (preferably, more than one) of such an email on this list, where it would be possible to debate whether the person actually deserved

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Travis McCrea
Maybe I have a hard time understanding since I don't use email to discuss anything that would be embarrassing, career ending, and most certainly not life threatening. However, it would seem that even if someone /does/ talk about those things using email -- they should be doing it with

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Gregory Foster
If we're going to require people to use their brains, perhaps its not too much to ask that individuals take responsibility for paying attention to who they are speaking to. This is not a personally configurable setting on the mailing list software, and we're

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Ali-Reza Anghaie
Strange how so many are citing security norms for (say) encryption but not the one that systems should always fail to the safest setting. (Which isn't always the most functional.) I actually prefer it the way it is. Yet I certainly appreciate the alternative concern and would support the change

[liberationtech] Seeking Nominations for the 2013 ITP Outstanding Software Development and Learning Innovation Awards

2013-03-20 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Derrick L. Cogburn dcogb...@american.edu It is my pleasure to write to you on behalf of the APSA ITP Section committee to select the Outstanding Software Development and Learning Innovation Awards for 2013. These are two separate awards, and the committee and I encourage you to submit

Re: [liberationtech] liberation tech and Congress

2013-03-20 Thread Brian Conley
Hi Lorelei, You might be surprised to hear this, I certainly was. Apparently Representative Darrell Issa has been pushing a bunch of opensource development around WordPress and potentially other OpenGov applications. Brian On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Lorelei Kelly

Re: [liberationtech] liberation tech and Congress

2013-03-20 Thread xek3149
Darrell Issa, Ron Wyden () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments On Mar 20, 2013 2:14 PM, Brian Conley bri...@smallworldnews.tv wrote: Hi Lorelei, You might be surprised to hear this, I certainly was. Apparently Representative

Re: [liberationtech] liberation tech and Congress

2013-03-20 Thread Wayne Moore
I believe Zoe Loffgrin (sp) has been pretty good on these sorts of issues lately as well. Wayne On 3/20/2013 12:23, xek3149 wrote: Darrell Issa, Ron Wyden () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org http://www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments On

Re: [liberationtech] Qt TorBrowser

2013-03-20 Thread liberationtech
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 10:49:50 -0700 Brian Conley bri...@smallworldnews.tv wrote: C. Unless we are having a larger discussion about the risks/fallibility of trademark copyright and authorship in a global society, what are we talking about here? Tor's model is we give out code away for free, our

Re: [liberationtech] liberation tech and Congress

2013-03-20 Thread Shava Nerad
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Lorelei Kelly loreleike...@gmail.comwrote: Its not a lobbying effort, but a long term policy education effort. Lobbying: most generally, the right of the individual to petition Congress to redress grievances. In your case, larnin' them what they don't know

Re: [liberationtech] list reply-all

2013-03-20 Thread Katrin Verclas
Can we just vote already? This is getting out of hand and a perfect example why this list is increasingly useless with too many flame wars and not enough substantive content... On Mar 20, 2013, at 13:52, Gregory Foster gfos...@entersection.org wrote: If we're going to require people to use

Re: [liberationtech] Please Vote on Reply to Question

2013-03-20 Thread Michael Allan
Please vote by submitting your preference to me by 11.59 pm PST on Sunday, March 24, 2013. Any votes received after this date and time will not be counted. reply-to-poster please -- Michael Allan Toronto, +1 416-699-9528 http://zelea.com/ Yosem Companys said: Dear Liberationtech list

Re: [liberationtech] skype

2013-03-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
One is tempted to suggest using other than Skype. Alternatives exist, and these are secure, at least according to their claims. As well, Skype's code is not transparent, in the way that other, open source, applications' are. louis On 13-03-20, at 22:39 , Eric S Johnson