Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Andrew Feinberg
Let's first have context -- at this time I am a 30 year old journalist. But (to establish my geek bona fides) shortly after I could legally drive, but long before I could vote, I went through the process of becoming a registered Debian Linux developer. Then, as is the case now, to achieve

[liberationtech] Global Principles on National Security Whistleblower

2013-06-12 Thread Fabio Pietrosanti (naif)
Hi all, this email to share the today release of the The Global Principles on National Security and Freedom of Information (the Tshwane Principles) by the Open Society Foundation. That's a set of Policy Guidelines for the protection of National Security Whistleblower. Those Principles

Re: [liberationtech] the Blackberry and Surveillance?

2013-06-12 Thread michael gurstein
I haven`t been watching that closely but in the course of my following the current discussions on surveillance I have yet to see a reference to RIM/Blackberry... Is this because it`s recent loss of market share means it isn`t of particular interest (I would have thought the up to recent user

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
This all rings very true for me: I'm a legal academic, and barely a geek, and in reality I barely ever use crypto. I was at the Privacy Law Scholars Conference in Berkeley last week when the PRISM story broke, and we had a special session at the end of the conference to talk about what we knew

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 06:15:30AM -0400, Sheila Parks wrote: Why not use her instead of his? Using his in 2013 is, indeed, misogyny List moderator, please control this before it completely goes out of hand. People are trying to get work done here, and this is not helping. -- Too many

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Guido Witmond
warning: plugging my wares [1] (again). On 12-06-13 10:05, Andrew Feinberg wrote: What exists is godawful at worse and cumbersome at best. For a cryptosystem to really, and I mean really become widespread enough to make an impact, it needs to be designed and implemented in such a way that a

Re: [liberationtech] Building a encrypted mobile network

2013-06-12 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/13 17:47, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Concealing these patterns would require users to send and receive dummy data even when they weren't sending or receiving calls, which would drain their batteries and data allowances. It would be possible

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from James A. Donald jam...@echeque.com - Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:45:16 +1000 From: James A. Donald jam...@echeque.com To: cryptogra...@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] [liberationtech] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0

Re: [liberationtech] Internet blackout

2013-06-12 Thread Dan Staples
@Richard: Alternative infrastructure-type projects like Commotion and other mesh networks can certainly be put in place proactively. In fact, that's a goal of Commotion: encouraging communities to build out their own mesh networks, so residents have more ownership and control over their local

[liberationtech] NSA spying trashes U.S. global role

2013-06-12 Thread Ronald Deibert
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/12/opinion/deibert-nsa-surveillance/ NSA spying trashes U.S. global role By Ronald Deibert , Special to CNN updated 8:32 AM EDT, Wed June 12, 2013 CNN.com Can Americans trust NSA's surveillance? Editor's note: Ronald Deibert is a professor of political science at the

Re: [liberationtech] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages

2013-06-12 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/13 17:52, Sean Cassidy wrote: I have created a simple anonymity network that broadcasts all messages to participants so that you cannot associate chatters. Hi Sean, A few quick questions: * Do routers subscribe to prefixes, or is it only

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On 2013-06-12, at 6:20 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 06:15:30AM -0400, Sheila Parks wrote: Why not use her instead of his? Using his in 2013 is, indeed, misogyny List moderator, please control this before it completely goes out of hand. +1 NK People

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread David Miller
On 12 June 2013 11:15, Sheila Parks sheilaruthpa...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use her instead of his? What, in the phrase Glenn Greenwald had to substantially delay his communications ? Surprised you got so many bites. It's not even very high quality trolling :) -- Love regards etc

Re: [liberationtech] the Blackberry and Surveillance?

2013-06-12 Thread Robert Guerra
Michael Ale, I gave numerous interviews back in 2010 when Blackberry started openly co-operating with governments to keep their service online. The concerns raised then, to this day then remain unanswered by the company. Given the company's unwillingness to constructively engage and be open

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Wasa wasabe...@gmail.com - Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:32:02 +0100 From: Wasa wasabe...@gmail.com To: cryptogra...@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] [liberationtech] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;

Re: [liberationtech] Spy stoppers: meet the companies benefiting from the PRISM privacy scare

2013-06-12 Thread Adam Back
Couple of problems in that article: it says google has keys, thats not the problem; google uses EDH ciphersuites by default like the next guy, and while its possible that NSA/PRISM has demanded SSL server keys from google, or from their CA perhaps without googles knowledge, and is actively MITM

Re: [liberationtech] Building a encrypted mobile network

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Michael Rogers mich...@briarproject.org To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Building a encrypted mobile network -BEGIN PGP

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2013 09:56 PM, Kate Krauss wrote: This is the beauty of cryptoparties--people can sit next to you and talk you through it. Thanks, Asher Wolf. That is often all it takes. I think it's time for another wave of cryptoparties. - -- The

Re: [liberationtech] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages

2013-06-12 Thread Sean Cassidy
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Michael Rogers mich...@briarproject.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/13 17:52, Sean Cassidy wrote: I have created a simple anonymity network that broadcasts all messages to participants so that you cannot associate chatters.

Re: [liberationtech] [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Tim tim-secur...@sentinelchicken.org - Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:34:11 -0700 From: Tim tim-secur...@sentinelchicken.org To: IPv6 Hackers Mailing List ipv6hack...@lists.si6networks.com Subject: Re: [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6 User-Agent:

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Eleanor Saitta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.12 11.54, micah wrote: I'm constantly hearing from people who complain about the UI in things like gnupg. I feel your pain, I do not want to argue that you are wrong. However, I do want to argue that complaining doesn't help to solve

[liberationtech] Blogpost: learning lessons from NSA's PRISM (or: crypto decentralization vs. bulk spying)

2013-06-12 Thread KheOps
Dear all, I spent some time writing a blogpost aimed at not-so-aware people who may have heard about PRISM but lack the background knowledge about massive surveillance and as such could make incorrect decisions if trying to protect themselves.

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Will Yager will.ya...@gmail.com - Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 11:08:27 -0500 From: Will Yager will.ya...@gmail.com To: cryptogra...@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6 X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B146) The process of

[liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread Andrea St
Dear friends, i would like to share with you this project and see your comments. http://prism-break.org/ best, -- Andrea Stroppa http://huffingtonpost.com/andrea-stroppa @andst7 -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at

Re: [liberationtech] New Anonymity Network for Short Messages

2013-06-12 Thread Lucas Gonze
the ideal would be to hit a high enough rate that it makes real-time analysis of content (by a human) impossible. By the time the service hit that rate of chats, it will be nigh-unusable by people. Every client could broadcast a message on a timer. Sometimes the message would be wheat and

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6

2013-06-12 Thread Peter Todd
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 05:59:38PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote: Here, I just don't understand the logic. To me, encrypting without authenticating buys you absolutely nothing, except to burn CPU cycles and contribute to global warming. In the *vast* majority of networking technology we use,

Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread Blibbet
On 6/12/13 10:21 AM, John Adams wrote: [...] This is one of the reasons why the EFF does not recommend tools. The issues associated with each tool are myriad and vast. [...] Huh? The EFF Surveillance Self Defense article, while out-of-date, does recommend tools. https://ssd.eff.org/tech --

Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread Griffin Boyce
There are a few great places to look at your options for breaking out of tracking situations: Fix your tracking situation (to some extent): http://fixtracking.com/ Get recommendations at: http://prism-break.org/ Get more in-depth information and recommendations: https://ssd.eff.org/tech ~Griffin

Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread Guido Witmond
On 12-06-13 19:21, John Adams wrote: I like that you're promoting free and open tools, but your title is misleading. You offer people false hope here. By listing the tools and not listing what level of security they offer, people will assume they can just switch and be protected. This is one of

Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread Andrea St
Dear friends about John Adams, i just copied the title of the website. No more, no less. 2013/6/12 Guido Witmond gu...@witmond.nl On 12-06-13 19:21, John Adams wrote: I like that you're promoting free and open tools, but your title is misleading. You offer people false hope here. By

Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread Andrea St
I see many emails from journalists here about this project. I'm not the author, i'm just a visitor like you. the author's email is: p...@nylira.com (you can find on the footer) thank you! 2013/6/12 Andrea St and...@gmail.com: Dear friends about John Adams, i just copied the title of the

[liberationtech] Dual Citizens and Information Collection

2013-06-12 Thread Travis McCrea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Obviously we don't know much about NSA/CIA spying on citizens and non-citizens but my question is this: I am a dual citizen of the US and Canada, many of the tools I use I identify as a Canadian. I am the leader of a Canadian political party, and

Re: [liberationtech] Opt out of Prism

2013-06-12 Thread John Adams
My bad, I thought you were the author of the page. In any event, I hadn't seen the EFF SSD page and had been cautioned by EFF staffers about recommending tools. Their approach is vastly better (albeit more verbose) than just raw recommendations of products. They go into full explanations of what

Re: [liberationtech] nettime dark days

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from Eric Beck ersatz...@gmail.com - Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 10:41:48 -0500 From: Eric Beck ersatz...@gmail.com To: nettim...@kein.org Subject: Re: nettime dark days On Wednesday, June 12, 2013, Keith Hart wrote: European governments are challenging the Obama

Re: [liberationtech] Dual Citizens and Information Collection

2013-06-12 Thread Tom Ritter
On 12 June 2013 14:21, Travis McCrea m...@travismccrea.com wrote: I was wondering if you guys had any ideas on how to potentially leverage that to perhaps sue the CIA in an effort to ensure they are not collecting any data on Travis McCrea the Canadian who is Travis McCrea the American. Is

Re: [liberationtech] Ostel: encrypted phone calls

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Belinsky
We've updated the app and the website a bunch this week. We hope that it's even more useful and functional now. Please go to ostel.co and start using our tool for encrypted phone calls. We'd love to hear feedback. Thanks! --* @mbelinsky https://twitter.com/mbelinsky |

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: micah mi...@riseup.net To: Andy Isaacson a...@hexapodia.org; liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

[liberationtech] The government is no longer the only party to win a matter in the FISA Court

2013-06-12 Thread James S. Tyre
Now EFF has too. https://www.eff.org/document/fisc-opinion-and-order-granting-effs-motion -- James S. Tyre Law Offices of James S. Tyre 10736 Jefferson Blvd., #512 Culver City, CA 90230-4969 310-839-4114/310-839-4602(fax) jst...@jstyre.com Policy Fellow, Electronic Frontier Foundation

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Brian Conley
+1 Micah +1 Jillian Anne and Paul. On Jun 12, 2013 7:24 PM, micah mi...@riseup.net wrote: Eleanor Saitta e...@dymaxion.org writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.12 11.54, micah wrote: I'm constantly hearing from people who complain about the UI in

[liberationtech] Use of gender-neutral terms when speaking and writing

2013-06-12 Thread Yosem Companys
Dear list, FYI, the standard practice at Stanford (and many other universities and Fortune 500 corporations) is to use gender-neutral terms when speaking or writing. Doing otherwise is considered disrespectful. Of course, everyone has a right to free speech. But, if someone is disrespectful,

[liberationtech] FW: The government is no longer the only party to win a matter in the FISA Court

2013-06-12 Thread James S. Tyre
Meant to post this to the whole list, sorry. -- James S. Tyre Law Offices of James S. Tyre 10736 Jefferson Blvd., #512 Culver City, CA 90230-4969 310-839-4114/310-839-4602(fax) jst...@jstyre.com Policy Fellow, Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org -Original Message- From:

[liberationtech] Community Wireless Across America

2013-06-12 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Preston Rhea preston.r...@gmail.com I need your help for a project that will bring me to 10 cities to teach folks how to organize mesh networks. I'd like to contact the brigade captains and organizers in these cities to build relationships: Bay Area Reno Salt Lake City Denver Omaha

[liberationtech] Spies Without Borders : Using Domestic Networks to Spy on the World.

2013-06-12 Thread Katitza Rodriguez
Find below two of our Spies Without Borders posts looking into how the information disclosed in the NSA leaks affect the international community. * Spies Without Borders : Using Domestic Networks to Spy on the World. By Tamir Israel (CIPPIC) and Katitza Rodriguez (EFF) *

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6

2013-06-12 Thread Nico Williams
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: From: Jim Small jim.sm...@cdw.com To: IPv6 Hackers Mailing List ipv6hack...@lists.si6networks.com Better-Than-Nothing Security: An Unauthenticated Mode of IPsec http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5386 Thanks - I was not aware of

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6

2013-06-12 Thread Nico Williams
[BTW, thanks Eugen for forwarding these posts!] Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:34:11 -0700 From: Tim tim-secur...@sentinelchicken.org To: IPv6 Hackers Mailing List ipv6hack...@lists.si6networks.com Subject: Re: [ipv6hackers] opportunistic encryption in IPv6 [...] S many different attempts

Re: [liberationtech] Blogpost: learning lessons from NSA's PRISM (or: crypto decentralization vs. bulk spying)

2013-06-12 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/12/2013 11:17 AM, KheOps wrote: Dear all, I spent some time writing a blogpost aimed at not-so-aware people who may have heard about PRISM but lack the background knowledge about massive surveillance and as such could make incorrect

[liberationtech] New ICTD2012 Special Issue Published

2013-06-12 Thread Yosem Companys
From: Arlene Luck al...@law.usc.edu Information Technologies International Development has just published its latest issue at http://itidjournal.org/index.php/itid. Reflections at the Nexus of Theory and Practice: Selected Papers from ICTD2012 Jonathan Donner, Rebecca E. Grinter, Gary Marsden

[liberationtech] NSA Director Alexander @ Senate Appropriations Committee (Jun 12)

2013-06-12 Thread Gregory Foster
U.S. Senate Committee on Appropriations (Jun 12) - Hearing on Cybersecurity: http://www.appropriations.senate.gov/ht-full.cfm?method=hearings.viewid=33dda6f9-5d83-409d-a8c5-7ada84b0c598 Complete video of the hearing and prepared testimony of each of the witnesses is linked here. This