Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-07 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On 2013-06-07, at 1:09 PM, Anthony Papillion anth...@cajuntechie.org wrote: On 06/06/2013 07:00 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Speaking as the lead developer for Cryptocat: OTR.js actually has had some vetting. We're keeping it experimental simply due to the experimental nature of web

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-07 Thread Jurre andmore
Pidgin is a terrible client. It has quite a bit of issues. Their SSL handling is terrible and possible to mitm, I audited the Windows build last August and found known vulnerabilities since 2006 in 2012.. only recently in february that the Pidgin team released a security update.. Avoid using

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-07 Thread Anthony Papillion
On 06/07/2013 12:18 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: I would never suggest Pidgin — Pidgin has never received an audit and is full of vulnerabilities that the development team is reluctant to fix. Cryptocat has actually received far more audits than Pidgin, although I'm not sure how to compare

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-07 Thread Steve Weis
Nadim's reply is much better just linking to the otr.js author's own warning. I'd like to reiterate the importance of code delivery. I've seen a couple dozen of attempts to do crypto via server-hosted Javascript. All of these reduced to trusting whomever is serving the code. This issues have been

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-07 Thread Eduardo Robles Elvira
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Steve Weis stevew...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to reiterate the importance of code delivery. I've seen a couple dozen of attempts to do crypto via server-hosted Javascript. All of these reduced to trusting whomever is serving the code. This issues have been

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-07 Thread Pavol Luptak
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 07:44:35PM +0200, Jurre andmore wrote: Pidgin is a terrible client. It has quite a bit of issues. Their SSL handling is terrible and possible to mitm, I audited the Windows build last August and found known vulnerabilities since 2006 in 2012.. only recently

[liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-06 Thread Anthony Papillion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I'm thinking about working on a web app that would use otr.js to enable OTR chat via the way (probably similar to Cryptocat). Does anyone know what the security status of otr.js is? Has it been vetted? If not, what is the recommended (vetted)

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-06 Thread Steve Weis
The status is: [otr.js] hasn't been properly vetted by security researchers. Do not use in life and death situations! https://github.com/arlolra/otr#warning On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Anthony Papillion anth...@cajuntechie.org wrote: I'm thinking about working on a web app that would use

Re: [liberationtech] Question about otr.js

2013-06-06 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Speaking as the lead developer for Cryptocat: OTR.js actually has had some vetting. We're keeping it experimental simply due to the experimental nature of web cryptography as a whole. It's a handy library that has had a lot of consideration put into it, but it really depends on your use case