Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-03 Thread Asher Wolf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James, Just to give you a chance to clarify: Were the names of people attending the conference from the ISC side passed on to USAID? If names of local activists weren't handed to USAID, does OpenITP plan to retain that list and if so, for what

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-03 Thread James Vasile
Asher Wolf asherw...@cryptoparty.org writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James, Just to give you a chance to clarify: Were the names of people attending the conference from the ISC side passed on to USAID? I was not involved in communications between ISC and the

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Asher Wolf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 London Cryptoparty specifically pointed out the usefulness of pseudonyms if signing up for an event, on their wikipage. On 2/12/12 6:59 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: - From memory (anyone knowing the please correct me if I am wrong) but the

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Marcin de Kaminski
The demand for _real_ names in Tunis was not related specifically to the Cryptoparty, but rather to the OpenITP event afaik? /Marcin Asher Wolf skrev 2012-12-02 12:57: London Cryptoparty specifically pointed out the usefulness of pseudonyms if signing up for an event, on their wikipage.

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread aestetix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 How did they enforce this? Did they simply ask for legal names on a signup-page, or did they require everyone to present a government-issued ID for entry? On 12/2/12 4:02 AM, Marcin de Kaminski wrote: The demand for _real_ names in Tunis was not

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Hi, Can anyone from OpenITP please explain to me how it is acceptable to force everyone to show ID at a CryptoParty? I am *extremely* disturbed by this news, especially regarding USAID funding of OpenITP's event and regarding the notion that this was occurring in Tunisia. Was OpenITP organizing

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Asher Wolf
The ideals of Cryptoparty include the protection of personal privacy. This is why this situation is so worrying. Asher On 3/12/12 2:03 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Betrayal of the ideals of Cryptoparty? That is the very least of my worries. What I'm worried about is why is USAID coercing Tunisian

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
I have a meeting with personnel from State next week and I will be certainly raising this issue. NK On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Asher Wolf asherw...@cryptoparty.orgwrote: The ideals of Cryptoparty include the protection of personal privacy. This is why this situation is so worrying.

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread dan jones
I have a meeting with personnel from State next week and I will be certainly raising this issue. Hang on, no states. Wait until someone who organised the Cryptoparty/OpenITP conference answers these questions? On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Asher Wolf asherw...@cryptoparty.orgwrote:

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
If by fumble you mean endangering Tunisian activists at the behest of a U.S. Government agency, then we just might be on the right page. If OpenITP doesn't want to be misinterpreted, they would do better to publish a blog post on these circumstances instead of hushing them up. NK On

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
This is a U.S. government-sponsored event occurring in a country where activists were recently responsible for the overthrow of a despotic regime. These activists are vested in protecting their identity and personal information from any government in order to avoid (at the very least)

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Collin Anderson
My concern is that USAID may have coerced an OpenITP activist training event in order to gather personal information on Tunisian activists who recently were responsible for overthrowing a Middle Eastern government. How can this claim be falsified? On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Nadim Kobeissi

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Katrin Verclas
First off, why all this flame-throwing, Nadim? Can you give the folks at OpenITP and ISC the benefit of the doubt and maybe ask, rather than always accuse and suspect bad intentions? Rubs a lot of people the wrong way, including me, since in the end, we are all in this together, n'est-ce pas?

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
Hi Katrin, I don't mean to engage in flame-throwing. I am trying to underline that a serious breach of proper security and privacy procedure was made at this Cryptoparty event. No matter the intentions, whether they are good or bad, this breach has occurred and as a result, Tunisian activists

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread Carolyn Anhalt
Hi Nadim Katrin, I had very little to do with this event and did not attend, however it is my understanding that USAID required identification of unknown attendees for the security of the Syrian activists involved, not the Tunisians, due primarily to a prior event where there was an unfortunate

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-02 Thread James Vasile
Hey all, Some of you know me. For those of you who don't, I'm James Vasile, and at OpenITP the buck stops with me. So whatever your complaints about our work in Tunis, I'm the right person to yell at. First of all, everybody on the OpenITP team agreed that the real names policy was terrible.

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-01 Thread dan jones
You may be aware that a previous event called CryptoParty was organized during the OpenITP Tech Summit on 27th November. However, the organizers required people to give their real ID in order to participate, requirement that was considered as not acceptable by a number of people, including

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-01 Thread Julian Oliver
..on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:31:25AM +, dan jones wrote: You may be aware that a previous event called CryptoParty was organized during the OpenITP Tech Summit on 27th November. However, the organizers required people to give their real ID in order to participate, requirement that

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-12-01 Thread Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - From memory (anyone knowing the please correct me if I am wrong) but the London Cryptoparty which was held in the Google Campus also required real names for health and safety reasons. This didn't stop people from signing-up with fake e-mail

[liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-11-30 Thread KheOps
Dear all, With quite a short delay (sorry for that!) we're kicking off a CryptoParty tomorrow in Tunis. It will be held at the Engineering School ENSI (National School of Computer Sciences), and will start at 2PM. People will first meet in the main theatre. You may be aware that a previous event

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-11-30 Thread Micah Lee
On 11/30/2012 09:57 PM, KheOps wrote: Dear all, With quite a short delay (sorry for that!) we're kicking off a CryptoParty tomorrow in Tunis. It will be held at the Engineering School ENSI (National School of Computer Sciences), and will start at 2PM. People will first meet in the main

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-11-30 Thread Dragana Kaurin
Awesome, looking forward to it! Having some difficulty finding the location - can you give me an address and tell me which building on the campus? On Friday, November 30, 2012 15:57 EST, KheOps khe...@ceops.eu wrote: Dear all, With quite a short delay (sorry for that!) we're kicking off

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-11-30 Thread KheOps
Le 01/12/2012 01:50, Dragana Kaurin a écrit : Awesome, looking forward to it! Having some difficulty finding the location - can you give me an address and tell me which building on the campus? MMh even though I'll be attending, I'm not a Tunisian and will be guided to the school by some

Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty in Tunis tomorrow (Saturday, 1st December)

2012-11-30 Thread Rafik
Nice to see libtech folks going to my alma mater :) I find this plan in the school website http://www.ensi.rnu.tn/fr/contact.php# it is the building with the strange shape . And if it is in the main theatre as indicated in cryptoparty page , it should just be in your left after the entrance .