On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 04:02:15PM -0700, Mike Perry wrote:
YaCY and other FOSS engines (in a sibling thread someone mentioned
another that I already forgot) are also something that I will accept
search plugins for the Omnibox, but their result quality, index depth,
and crawl frequency are no
Nick:
Quoth Mike Perry:
Hidden service circuits require ~4X as many Tor router traversals
as normal Tor exit circuits to set up, and unlike normal Tor exit
circuits, they are often *not* prebuilt. Once they are set up, they
still require 2X as many Tor router traversals end-to-end
Mike Perry:
Nick:
Quoth Mike Perry:
Hidden service circuits require ~4X as many Tor router traversals
as normal Tor exit circuits to set up, and unlike normal Tor exit
circuits, they are often *not* prebuilt. Once they are set up, they
still require 2X as many Tor router traversals
Quoth Mike Perry:
If you're talking about attacks as strong as end-to-end correlation,
then it turns out hidden services have similar weaknesses on that order.
There are a number of points where the adversary can inject themselves
either to observe or manipulate hidden service circuit
Quoth Mike Perry:
I find StartPage/Google immensely superior to Duckduckgo/Bing when
searching the long tail of technical material (which I do frequently).
In that case I agree StartPage probably makes sense. Search engines
are mainly useful for long tail things; for other stuff I generally
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On 06/24/2013 09:16 PM, Daniel Sieradski wrote:
Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search
engine that is entirely transparent in both its software and
practices? (dmoz.org
doesn't count!)
...YaCY?
http://yacy.de/
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Jacob Appelbaum:
Mike Perry:
In terms of data confidentiality and integrity though, I think it is
probably true that the Tor hidden service trust root is much stronger
than the browser CA trust root, even given the 80bit name hash and
RSA-1024 sized keys (which probably are roughly
The Doctor:
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On 06/24/2013 09:16 PM, Daniel Sieradski wrote:
Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search
engine that is entirely transparent in both its software and
practices? (dmoz.org
doesn't count!)
...YaCY?
On 27/06/13 01:02, Mike Perry wrote:
The Doctor:
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On 06/24/2013 09:16 PM, Daniel Sieradski wrote:
Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search
engine that is entirely transparent in both its software and
practices? (dmoz.org
Michael Carbone:
On 06/24/2013 10:00 PM, Mike Perry wrote:
IxQuick has so far successfully negotiated with Google against
outright banning us. Google sees a spike in IxQuick traffic every
time we increase StartPage's prominence in TBB, and this does not
go unnoticed by Google.
Quoth Mike Perry:
Hidden service circuits require ~4X as many Tor router traversals
as normal Tor exit circuits to set up, and unlike normal Tor exit
circuits, they are often *not* prebuilt. Once they are set up, they
still require 2X as many Tor router traversals end-to-end as normal
From: Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org
To: liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [liberationtech] DuckDuckGo vs Startpage
Google is also unwilling to work with us to deploy rate limiting
Nadim Kobeissi:
I'd just like to add that I'm a DuckDuckGo user myself and that I can
definitely vouch for the service.
I've had a number of people tell me that they vouch for DuckDuckGo. What
does this even mean? Nobody seems to be capable of rationally explaining
it.
Have you inspected their
Has there ever been any effort to create an open source search engine that is
entirely transparent in both its software and practices? (dmoz.org doesn't
count!)
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d...@danielsieradski.com
http://danielsieradski.com
315.889.1444
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On 06/24/2013 08:20 PM, Mike Perry wrote:
I've had a number of people tell me that they vouch for DuckDuckGo.
What does this even mean? Nobody seems to be capable of rationally
explaining it.
Have you inspected their datacenter/server security?
Michael Carbone:
On 06/24/2013 08:20 PM, Mike Perry wrote:
I've had a number of people tell me that they vouch for DuckDuckGo.
What does this even mean? Nobody seems to be capable of rationally
explaining it.
Have you inspected their datacenter/server security? Have you
audited their
On 2013-06-24, at 8:20 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote:
Nadim Kobeissi:
I'd just like to add that I'm a DuckDuckGo user myself and that I can
definitely vouch for the service.
I've had a number of people tell me that they vouch for DuckDuckGo. What
does this even mean?
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On 06/24/2013 10:00 PM, Mike Perry wrote:
Michael Carbone:
On 06/24/2013 08:20 PM, Mike Perry wrote:
I've had a number of people tell me that they vouch for
DuckDuckGo. What does this even mean? Nobody seems to be
capable of rationally explaining
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