Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Andrew Feinberg
Let's first have context -- at this time I am a 30 year old journalist. But (to establish my geek bona fides) shortly after I could legally drive, but long before I could vote, I went through the process of becoming a registered Debian Linux developer. Then, as is the case now, to achieve

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Paul Bernal (LAW)
This all rings very true for me: I'm a legal academic, and barely a geek, and in reality I barely ever use crypto. I was at the Privacy Law Scholars Conference in Berkeley last week when the PRISM story broke, and we had a special session at the end of the conference to talk about what we knew

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 06:15:30AM -0400, Sheila Parks wrote: Why not use her instead of his? Using his in 2013 is, indeed, misogyny List moderator, please control this before it completely goes out of hand. People are trying to get work done here, and this is not helping. -- Too many

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Guido Witmond
warning: plugging my wares [1] (again). On 12-06-13 10:05, Andrew Feinberg wrote: What exists is godawful at worse and cumbersome at best. For a cryptosystem to really, and I mean really become widespread enough to make an impact, it needs to be designed and implemented in such a way that a

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
On 2013-06-12, at 6:20 AM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 06:15:30AM -0400, Sheila Parks wrote: Why not use her instead of his? Using his in 2013 is, indeed, misogyny List moderator, please control this before it completely goes out of hand. +1 NK People

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread David Miller
On 12 June 2013 11:15, Sheila Parks sheilaruthpa...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use her instead of his? What, in the phrase Glenn Greenwald had to substantially delay his communications ? Surprised you got so many bites. It's not even very high quality trolling :) -- Love regards etc

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread The Doctor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2013 09:56 PM, Kate Krauss wrote: This is the beauty of cryptoparties--people can sit next to you and talk you through it. Thanks, Asher Wolf. That is often all it takes. I think it's time for another wave of cryptoparties. - -- The

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Eleanor Saitta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.12 11.54, micah wrote: I'm constantly hearing from people who complain about the UI in things like gnupg. I feel your pain, I do not want to argue that you are wrong. However, I do want to argue that complaining doesn't help to solve

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: micah mi...@riseup.net To: Andy Isaacson a...@hexapodia.org; liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-12 Thread Brian Conley
+1 Micah +1 Jillian Anne and Paul. On Jun 12, 2013 7:24 PM, micah mi...@riseup.net wrote: Eleanor Saitta e...@dymaxion.org writes: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013.06.12 11.54, micah wrote: I'm constantly hearing from people who complain about the UI in

[liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-11 Thread Nadim Kobeissi
This story really solidifies why I believe that we need to make privacy technologies accessible to journalists, instead of simply focusing on the other way around. Glenn Greenwald had to substantially delay his communications with Edward Snowden due to how inaccessible a lot of privacy and

Re: [liberationtech] Guardian reporter delayed e-mailing NSA source because crypto is a pain

2013-06-11 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Kate Krauss ka...@critpath.org wrote: It's really easy to use these tools if you already know how to do it. I've been using PGP since 1994, if not earlier. In more recent times it's become a regular part of my workflow in discussing security critical bugs. I am a