Re: [liberationtech] Solutions to surveillance, beyond tech legal

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/12/13 00:44, Yosem Companys wrote: Using this framework, it's clear that the media is focusing on the regulative (laws) and parts of the cultural-cognitive (tech), but ignoring the normative and affective, as Dan notes, including arts and

Re: [liberationtech] Solutions to surveillance, beyond tech legal

2013-12-18 Thread Joseph Lorenzo Hall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Fascinating. Normatively, I've been trying (not in these words) to tell folks, any chance I get, to protect your shit better and that on the tech side we'll work hard to meet them there by hardening things in a usable manner. Even though I work

Re: [liberationtech] Solutions to surveillance, beyond tech legal

2013-12-18 Thread Shava Nerad
Shouldn't there be a pillar of *political engagement* where people get off the couch and out of their ergonomic chairs as a product of normative/cognitive et al effects -- that is somewhat to the side of what we generally think of as legal/legislative or normative effects but belongs in its own